As we tick over into 2024 the mountain biking is in a strange place. The growth spurt that would take the world by storm turned out to be just that - a spurt - and has left the industry with the same hand-me-down jeans that we've always had. It's just now they no longer fit around the waist and leave unsightly flashes of pale and pasty calf. My predictions are as much wild speculation as anything.
Noses Will Continue to be Bloodied in RacingWhen talking about pro racing I think there are two separate issues that just so happen to be very easily mistaken for one another. The first is communication, and keeping everyone in the loop and on the same page. By
everyone I don't even mean me or you, but rather people who make decisions regarding people's livelihood. I know from a small amount of personal experience and a larger amount from the frustrations of friends that this isn't really the case. This isn't helped by the fact that pro-mountain biking is a bit of a wayward circus at the best of times, however, since coming in, Discovery seem to have capitalized on the concrete foundations of chaos and confusion that were laid long before their time. Industry standards in mountain biking at an elite level are at best messy and at worst downright shocking. This leads me closely to my second point - something has to give.
World Cups are in my opinion fundamentally an unsound product. 120 riders trying to qualify is romantic and exciting but it's not a long-term solution for the peak of our sport. What we need is either a well-funded regional series to let those outside the top 40 sharpen their teeth or some kind of two-division system where each team has a set amount of riders, and gets promoted or relegated across two tiers by the total points they'd accrued at the end of the season. This race could happen the day before and ease congestion on the track as well as in the coverage. Perhaps that could even mean for elite team status you have to qualify a certain criteria (each team could for instance have space - and therefore an opportunity to get important championship points - for two elite males, one elite female, one junior male, one junior female).
When conducting interviews at the MSA World Cup I had a great deal of sympathy with many of the riders and staff, but realistically something will change. I just hope that change is done well enough to not require drastic adjustments in the future. The ESO has a huge task on their hands, and when bringing change in this big it's always going to ruffle some feathers but that doesn't make it any less worthwhile in the long run. All that said, this mainly relates to downhill. What's happening with enduro I have no idea, and having never really spent time on the circuit I don't feel even remotely well qualified enough to say.
Enduro bikes will be steeperThe 63-degree head angle of the enduro bike will go the way of the dodo. Instead, we'll see bikes that have a greater value of stack, possibly a shorter reach and most definitely a longer rear end. The reach I think will be dealers' choice, but in the next year or two we will start to develop a stronger understanding of the relationship between stack and chainstay length on production bikes. Largely, a 640mm stack needs a 450-ish stay, a 650mm a 460-ish and so on. I don't quite know what the relationship is, but I think we'll have a solid foundation by the end of '25.
The long rear end tempers the high front in terms of weight distribution and the high front makes scooping the bike and wheel lifts easier, all while offering a great deal of stability at speed without the inherent drawbacks of wheel flop at slower speeds that you can get with slacker head angles.
Shimano Saint will fall in line with LinkglideI heard in 2021 that Shimano Saint was coming out in 2023. I heard in 2022 that it was coming out in 2025. That said, I think we will see flashes at Eurobike or perhaps slightly later. I have seen nothing other than the proto-type mechs you would have seen over the past half-decade and, if gossip is to be believed, that development wasn't always completely rosey in terms of how the product was received by riders.
The important thing that will make Saint happen in '24 is that LinkGlide has laid such a solid platform for what 11-speed can and should be. The punch-proof steel cassettes shift very well under load and, while not the quietest or the fastest they do give a reliable shift that can be grabbed without any mechanical sympathy whatsoever. I think that this would ultimately line up well for the needs of racers.
More Weird-WheelsI recently reviewed the stringy spoke
Berd wheels, and I can see more brands going in on novel spokes in the future. Are they better? I think so, but that's not to say they're perfect. After years of making brutally stiff wheels, the industry is now in something of an arms race to provide the most compliant ones - and that will lead us to a strange and wonderful place. I don't know if they'll have string spokes or just be super shallow rims, but mountain biking wheels will venture further away from established norms. Expect to see more two-cross lacing patterns on the front, specific rim layups and wafer-thin rim profiles.
We Will See a Pull Shock Soon, But Maybe Not YetWhen the cover was finally lifted on the proto-type bike that's been ridden to so much success by Loic Bruni and Finn Iles, I have to admit I was a little disappointed. I had hoped there would be a novel shock technology in there, but sadly it was not to be. It was a bit like when I saw Corey Taylor on QI, laughing with Alan Davies. It's not that I wanted him to be mean or rude but I was just shocked by how charmingly conventional he was, and I couldn't pretend that it didn't make me uncomfortable.
This is my most tenuous and least likely prediction but pull shocks will make a comeback sooner or later not because they're inherently better, but rather because it will be a way to reshuffle the deck in patent wars. That will either fade into obscurity almost immediately or create an artificial demand as brands have to keep up with the trend. You thought trunnion was bad? You ain't seen nothing yet.
Loads more bicycle related businesses will collapse (small, medium and large).
Most brands won't update their models other than paint colour.
More factory teams will pull sponsorship, especially in Enduro.
eBikes sales will be clung on to for dear life by retailers and distributors.
RRPs for normal bikes will remain ridiculously high, but mass discounting will accelerate and >40% off will be seen as normal, throughout the year
It’s wild.
I’m in the bottom 1% of all business minds galaxy-wide, so admittedly I don’t know shit…but how u gonna go bogo bro how
BOGO!
Kona u a fool for this one bro!
RRPs will remain high and go higher, in order to make the so-called discounts look more attractive.
My prediction is that the gap between RRPs and real price-paid will get wider and become more normal - which means another year of retailers struggling to make a margin.
As a consumer, which are you gonna buy - a £4000 bike or an identical £8000 bike with 50% off?
Still really bad but not as bad!
MSRP is changing. I bought a Pivot Switchblade brunch ride with full factory, DT wheels, and mixed Shimano groupset $5K USD. Great deal for a Pivot. I just need a -1 angle set to get it at that 65* angle I seem to love.
Santa Cruz cut their MSRP 2024.
Logically this would suggest that the manufacturers may be offering the shops some sort of rebate on any inventory they move to offset the reduced prices.
I was simply pointing out that it’s not that far out of line with what many other companies are also doing.
But yeah... on a bicycle... BOGO is crazy. So is 50%. Some of these companies are going to be taking losses on bikes just to get them out of storage facilities so they can stop paying rent on them. In a standard bike industry economy that doesn't happen unless someone really screwed up. This is the norm right now. That is the crazy bit. It'll stabilize. I recommend anyone that's even remotely thought about buying buys in the next 12 months.
I'm selling some of my stuff and I'll be lucky to get 60% of what they would have sold for 6 months ago.
Where do I buy my raffle tix?
I’ll be the first admit I had no idea what’s going on here until I looked it up.
That's because the only good MTB pull shock design that has ever existed was the Fox Dyad, designed and patented by Peter Denk and used by Cannondale and Scott. But since Specialized has completely absorbed Denk Engineering as a 100% subsidiary in 2022, they probably own all their patents now. And as they've demonstrated on multiple occasions in the past, Specialized doesn't like to share. If someone would dare to design a pullshock that's even remotely similar, they'd probably get sued into oblivion by Specialized.
What will @TransitionBikeCompany next bikes look like? Most have said their bikes are at the "extreme" end already and updates have nowhere to go except for subtle tweaks and accessory specifications like UDH, storage, components, etc.
Will they double down on their geo or revise them back to less aggressive/different numbers and call it "SBG-2"?
Having a Spire and ridding the latest Megatower, Nomad, and Hightower, I still find I prefer the Spire and it doesn't sacrifice enough where it's weaker. May be a suspension platform/kinematic preference.
If the UCI/Discovery actually does have a plan behind all of these unpopular changes, not communicating this plan does not inspire confidence - especially to the companies expected to foot the bill to provide the racers.
You only allow a select few to compete - there is gaming to be had, like anything really.
If a team gets promoted or relegated - you'll have a handful of brands at the top (Spec, SC, Trek, etc) paying insane amounts of money because they'll get visibility....if you can't pay a rider, you won't get exposure. Wouldn't that result in an arms race to pay riders and leave some of the smaller teams behind? If so I'd think you'd have some teams start pulling out since they can't afford to be part of the circus.
The minute you start introducing more incentive to pay you'll have to weigh the pros and cons....there is no "RIGHT" answer, it's tradeoffs in my mind.
Honestly no idea why people prefer the chode valves.
Presta valves can be cleaned, cores can be removed to release air fast af, air can be let out and psi adjusted to the .0000001th psi (yes I notice the difference, stfu and don't tell me to take a dump before my ride).
Schramver valves belong on huffy's and ebikes.
Also, Schrader valves remove just like presta, are so cheap (like presta) that cleaning them is a fools errand, and are so much more universal. And with modern tubeless setups are basically the same weight.
Why are presta valves superior other than the superiority complex? Remember that literally ALL air suspension uses Schrader valves and they hold immensely higher pressures than our tires. He'll, basically anything that holds air uses Schrader valves, except 'performance' bikes. Not really sure why anymore.
Cool.
Are people really worried at their valves will clog? I'm pretty environmentally conscious but even I don't blink at throwing away a tiny $0.10 piece of metal.
Don't enduro motos use sealant like we do? I'm dead certain they don't use presta.
And presta do clog with sealant, that's the point, why I prefer to have a removable core. And no, I don't throw away and waste time buying new cores or $20-$30 valves when I can clean em. As far as being environmentally conscious, not how that works. Saying you are means nothing paired with a direct example of how you aren't lol.
Sorry for coming on so strong there, at this point its more of a matter of what fits in my rim and pretty sure schrader would not.
You’re going to die alone, BarryWalstead. And I will shralp your grave. Bzzzzzzzzzzzz
You played yourself, master mechanic. Please delete your account and know that you’re not allowed to use the tools anymore.
Ouch!
I always used the Shrader valve tool from my dad’s toolbox as a robot friend for my toys. They’re as small and cheap (and common—for those of us who paid attention) as anything.
I’m not back with BarryWalstead in his quest, but he’s right about the ease of Shrader valves. They’re pretty much tied for Presta. We got this.
And please don’t forget to delete your account.
Are you saying that the Hightower 3 is no longer a vanilla dad bike and actually the ideal enduro bike designed for serious shredders?
Could you research and write a piece that lays out the actual organizational chart for mtb racing? I’m still pissed at ESO, but I read Chris Ball has had a new name tag at Warner for months…I’d really like to be able to direct my online vitriol at the right dudes. With the right names. Really it’s Chris Ball where the f*ck is this guy
I think it’s the lady with the radio when they canceled that junior race.
I thought Martin Whiteley's idea of having a two tier contest (both televised) seemed the best solution for the current situation. The lower tier would take the place of semis IIRC.
At least it's more pragmatic to clean up the mess made by WB in the short term, as nobody can magic up a thriving feeder race network.
PS. It's a great trail/enduro bike and has a 64 degree head angle.
In my book, that means the sport is thriving.
I guess it depends on how you equate a thriving sport. If better bikes and more people on the trails proves that point, I guess you're right. I'd prefer that my friends who are "making" a living in the industry, currently worrying about sponsorships going away, or selling bikes to feed their families had a thriving industry. To be fair, bike shops were always a tough business, though.
Let's not even get into the current state of pro racing...
Live your own life, man!
Funny that you use the term 'wayward circus' in this intro paragraph cause that's exactly what your opening paragraph is. I couldn't even figure out what the hell you are talking about here, and the next paragraphs weren't much better.
Also if you want to be considered a professional MTB journalists don't write things like this..
"What's happening with enduro I have no idea,"
Or this..
"I heard in 2021 that Shimano Saint was coming out in 2023. I heard in 2022 that it was coming out in 2025."
Saint came out decades ago. You don't even mention gearboxes for e bikes in this article, which is what everybody wants and is waiting for. Instead you trot out more derailleur garbage.
When did wheel flop at slow speeds on 64° bikes become an issue? I'm good but if you add a longer stems to you equation you have the exact same take as PVD. I'm curious if you ride steep terrain much? I like having slack angles for those situations and I don't want high bars or super long chainstays personally. The fact that you also are predicting 2x spokes for aggressive riding kills any legitimacy that wasn't already lost when you expressed your love for headset routing.
Which patent design would a pull shock get around? Do you actually have an example or just pulling this out of nowhere?
Sorta surprising that something this poorly written and thought out makes it to the front page. Your takes are all bad, your writing is awful, but what is really lacking is an actual Pinkbike editor to check you at the door.
ca.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/how-to-write-an-opinion-essay
The idea of having a thesis is important and that's what I saw most lacking in the first paragraph. After the thesis, an excellent article is laid out with a well-researched complete table of contents before any final stage writing begins, even with a conclusion and considering couter arguments in your notes. That way you know that everything makes sense and you can start thinking about any weaknesses and improve it. Then you have a solid foundation before you go into your final writing effort. The lack of editing here was amateur. I used to subscribe to Outside years ago and it was some of the best recreation reading I've read, I thought things would become more consistently high level with their guidance.