Nukeproof hasn’t been shy about letting the world know a carbon version of their Dissent downhill bike was on the way. We featured a
bike check with team rider, Adam Brayton, back in September, although the frame details were kept under the camo wrap.
From the outside, the frame appears to be very similar to the aluminum model, but Nukeproof have packed a ton of features into this new carbon-molded Dissent. For starters, the change in materials saves 430g and the kinematics have been tweaked. Nukeproof has also condensed two of the wheel-size options in the Dissent family into one carbon model, as well as devising new sizing nomenclature, called, NP1, NP2, and NP3.
Two build kits with a mix of SRAM / RockShox and Nukeproof components begin at £4499.99 (GBP) / $5699.99 (Euro) / $5,199 (USD), plus there’s also a frameset to custom build too.
Dissent Carbon Details• Wheel size: 29er or MX
• Travel: 200mm
• 3-position main pivot progression adjustment
• Coil or air shock compatible
• Reach: 445, 465, 485mm (+/-6mm cups inc.)
• Chainstay: 440, 445, 450mm
• Weight: 3.48 kg (raw frame, size NP1)
• Pricing (complete): £4499.99 GBP / €5699.99 EUR / $5,199 USD - £5999.99 GBP / €7499.99 EUR/ $6,999 USD
• Pricing (frameset): £2999.99 GBP / €3599.99 EUR / $3,199 USD
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Frame DetailsBesides the obvious switch to the sculpted carbon material, the Dissent platform now combines both the 29er and mixed wheel frames into one sleek package. Nukeproof has employed the use of four variable fixing points on the frame to do just that. They’ve also worked in a flip-chip at the seatstay pivot to retain the geometry and kinematics between the two rear wheel sizes. A slotted 200mm post-style brake mount works for all three chainstay lengths.
Behind the built-in fork bumpers, you’ll find tube-in-tube cable routing that runs throughout the front and rear triangles. There’s also a healthy dose of rubber along the chainstay and under the downtube.
KinematicsThe kinematics have been altered to add suppleness with an air shock and Nukeproof says riders may find themselves moving up a spring weight from the aluminum Dissents, if they prefer a coil option. At the main pivot there is still a progression adjustment, however, that’s been reduced from four to three positions, giving 21, 25, and 28% progression versus the previous 17, 21, 26, and 30% settings. The frame still uses a 250x75mm shock and the smooth articulation of a bearing eyelet on the lower mount.
GeometryIf you’re familiar with their alloy version then you’ll recognize the 3-position chainstay adjustment at the axle which now varies between 440, 445, and 450mm. One of the critical numbers that doesn’t change though is the 63-degree headtube angle.
Then there are the three frame sizes that fall under a new naming scheme, NP1, NP2, and NP3. The reach numbers start at a baseline of 445, 465, and 485mm, but can vary by 6mm in either direction depending on the orientation of the supplied offset headset cups.
Pricing, Specs, and AvailabilityAlthough the Dissent Carbon can adapt to either rear wheel size, you’ll still have the choice to pick which one works for you when deciding on a build kit. The frame kit is available now in the EU, UK, and USA, while the complete bikes will come to the eastern side of the pond next week. Towards the end of July and August, the Comp and RS builds will come to the USA.
The Comp comes in a gloss grey color and retails for £4499.99 GBP / €5699.99 EUR / $5199 USD with a RockShox Boxxer Select, Super Deluxe Select air shock, G2 RE brakes, and Sun Duroc wheels. SRAM also takes care of the drivetrain with a 7-speed GX shift kit and Descendant crankset.
On the £5999.99 GBP / €7499.99 EUR/ $6,999 USD RS build, upgrades are made all around to the gloss red bike. SRAM / RockShox bits bump up to the Ultimate variety and the wheels swap to Nukeproof’s Horizon V2 HG. There are also Code R brakes with 220 and 200mm rotors, and an XO1 DH drivetrain.
Nukeproof’s own Neutron and Vector components and Michelin DH22 TRL cover the cockpit and tire specs on both builds, plus, MRP’s G4 chainguide is fitted for chain security.
If you’re after just the frame, that’ll cost £2999.99 GBP / €3599.99 EUR / $3,199 USD and will only be available in the grey color option. It’ll include the Super Deluxe Ulitmate air shock, rear axle, headset, and paint protection wrap already installed.
^my inner demon speaking
But only people who know what a real ride on a DH bike is like appreciate the companies work to further develop these bikes
Interestingly, you can almost determine whether or not a brand has a DH bike or not based on the rest of their lineup- the new Nukeproof Giga, Specialized Enduro, etc. frames look like DH bikes with a single crown slapped on, whereas a comparable Yeti SB160 or RM Altitude look far more trail-bike inspired.
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They Heat up and Fade on not even long DH runs, they have mediocre power. I tried everything, Multiple bleeds, 220 rotors, different types of pads.
I'm not a fan of either (but still too broke to get rid of them). It feels like SRAM released the Rs as a fundamentally flawed brake, and then charged us tons more for the band-aided RSCs. This would be acceptable if it weren't for the old Avid Codes having the same issues over a decade ago.
The 2-pot XT's are impressive for what they are, but I don't appreciate the on/off switch feel. Going to TRP or Hayes next for sure.
But I thought to myself, "OK, these guys can't be talking out their arses, there must be a rear shock conspiracy" so I checked some other very popular brands. I gave up after 5 websites with, respectively: no coil shocks, no coil shocks, coils only on DH bikes, coils only on DH and FR bikes, coils on 165mm+ and air on shorter travel.
I swear pinkbikers will say anything to complain these days
a DH rider does not want comfort. Shocks are being used for the bigger hits. That's why air shocks are okay.
An Enduro rider wants comfort because the races are longer. Because they get tired, they need the shock for the smaller hits also. A coil shock is more comfortable and therefore more appropriate for Enduro than an air shock.
His choice and results over the coming months will be interesting.
Alas, It’s all about Blue Flows and Yewwwing at the bottom.
Pre order right now it seems
Ok so set aside DTC models(mfgs) then
Was that reason marketing by any chance???
An I'd HAPPILY ride a stinky over any modern plastic bike that's obsolete in 6 weeks because industry "standards " .......
(I ride a supreme V2 btw)
OH an sponsored riders ride an hype up what they are PAID to ride an hype up all to keep the marketing of gimmicks flowing.... To think otherwise is fkng naive. OH an BTW, ALL your heroes are juiced....... FACT
On a plus side tho, they can perform at thier level on any wheel size, HELL they could shred the shit out of any of us PB commenters on they Nans shopper FACT
Still tons of DH bikes, brand new DH bikes where I'm at in kamloops, people of all ages flipping and spinning their DH bikes, riding DH bikes at the bike park. There's enduro bikes too but many of them are on 27.5 wheels and set up for barspins/tailwhips. The dog walking karen crowd is on enduro bikes too but they don't really count. I guess if you have lots of good jumps and the scene doesn't suck then you see a lot more people making use of the 200mm travel and 27.5 wheels. Maybe you all started riding a lot more boring and thats why your all on 29 enduro bikes now because you only see going fast in a race as the top measure of what bikes are for
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Then he tested his Heckler EEB against it down a mini-Dh and the Santacruz won.
I guess it wasn't that unreal if a digital beat it!!!! (He is a quick rider too)
I am a mountain biker, dont the odd race that points down a hill, no idea what a gravity man is, but you go get em gravity man.
Loving(ish) my Nomad just now.
I don't ride just park and going my flat out is the hook that gets me on my bike (and injured all the time!)