First Look: The $865 Push SV8 Coil Shock
Colorado's Push Industries has released its most affordable coil shock yet, with pricing starting at $865 USD. Though it's not exactly an insignificant sum of money, it is nearing half the price of the ElevenSix, the brand's premium coil shock. Unlike the latter, this is a single valve affair, but it does borrow much of its technology from its well-established sibling.
Tool-free adjustment of high- and low-speed compression damping, and low-speed rebound damping is on the table, combined with an independent hydraulic bottom-out piston. The aim with this one was to deliver a durable, lightweight, high-performance coil shock, with the broadest aftermarket compatibility for both regular bikes and eMTBs.
Tool-free adjustment of high- and low-speed compression damping, and low-speed rebound damping is on the table, combined with an independent hydraulic bottom-out piston. The aim with this one was to deliver a durable, lightweight, high-performance coil shock, with the broadest aftermarket compatibility for both regular bikes and eMTBs.
Push Industries SV8 Details
• Melonite QPQ high strength steel shaft
• 28 clicks of high-speed compression adjustment
• 28 clicks of low-speed compression adjustment
• 18 clicks of low-speed rebound adjustment
• Hydraulic bottom-out
• Standard eyelet and trunnion options
• eMTB compatible
• $865 USD without spring (+$95 for PUSH HyperCoil Spring)
• Claimed weight: Approx. 800 grams with Hypercoil spring and hardware
• pushindustries.com
• Melonite QPQ high strength steel shaft
• 28 clicks of high-speed compression adjustment
• 28 clicks of low-speed compression adjustment
• 18 clicks of low-speed rebound adjustment
• Hydraulic bottom-out
• Standard eyelet and trunnion options
• eMTB compatible
• $865 USD without spring (+$95 for PUSH HyperCoil Spring)
• Claimed weight: Approx. 800 grams with Hypercoil spring and hardware
• pushindustries.com
The Push SV8 is available in both standard eyelet and Trunnion mount options, metric sizing only
Push Industries made its name in custom suspension tuning, before launching the ElevenSix in 2015, a coil shock that is now in its third generation.
That ultra high-end $1,600 USD suspension component is sort of in a league of its own, thanks to its dual overhead compression damping system that allows the rider to switch between two preset compression damping settings on the fly - sort of like having two shocks in one. The SV8 announced today gets its name from the fact that it merely has a single valve.
That single valve is, however, still externally tunable with 28 clicks each of high- and low-speed compression adjustment, and 18 clicks of low-speed rebound adjustment. And, there's the independent hydraulic bottom-out piston that the SV8 shares with the ElevenSix. This comes into play over the final 15% of rear wheel travel, helping to decelerate the compression to avoid bottom-out, or at least reduce the harshness associated with it. This aspect of the damper is non-adjustable.
Unlike the ElevenSix, which is a rider- and frame-specific rear shock, the Push SV8 is available in one of only two possible damper tunes: an A-Tune for 300-500lb/in spring rates, and a B-Tune for 525-700lb/in spring rates.
There is no climb lever on the SV8. Darren Murphy, the founder of PUSH Industries, tells us the SV8's bridged piston design works with the compression valve to reduce rider-induced movements that come from pedaling, braking, or body shifts under technical climbing, without compromising bump performance.
It runs a low pressure reservoir system (95 psi) said to significantly reduce initial breakaway force at the shock shaft. Darren says this results in a shock that can track the ground better by reacting to even the smallest trail chatter.
While the Push SV8 can't compete with the likes of the RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil or the Fox DHX2 on price, it absolutely can on customer care. They offer a full factory warranty reset with each annual service if performed by one of their Factory Authorized Service Centers.
Consider that with the fact that you can adjust stroke length in 2.5mm increments, so it can viably be transferred from bike to bike, and perhaps you've got yourself a shock for life. All of a sudden, the $865 USD doesn't seem so bad.
Oh, that warranty is transferable to subsequent owners, too.
The SV8 is available in the following dimensions:
• 180 x 50-55mm trunnion
• 205 x 60-65mm trunnion
• 210 x 50-55mm standard eyelet
• 230 x 60-65mm standard eyelet
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Push had a recall on my model of 11.6 so I sent it in. They replaced the impacted parts, gave it a full service for free and got it back to me in 5 days with a refreshed warranty starting from the day they sent it back to me.
You get @maxgod comment, scale really hassomething to do with whats happening here, Push prolly makes shocks in the hundreds, while Fox makes em in the hundred thousands.
For the price you paid for the Push, you could have prolly bought 3 DPX2 shocks, hell the last brand new Fox Factory Float X I bought cost me $250 CDN,
You mentioned in your statement about Push how they serviced it for free, what in the hell do you think they were going to do when they had the shock open for a warranty rebuild?
But youre just stating facts right....
Also I think you’re forgetting about quality over quantity.. plus the DPX2 was just a shit shock all around. The X2 had some reliability issues but actually has been an awesome shock otherwise.
Push didn’t have to service it. They replaced an eyelet and didn’t even need to open it up fully ya dunce. Maybe ask some questions before making assumptions. So yeah, they did go above and beyond for me.
Maybe chill out and remember we are just talking about bike parts here bud.
Hopefully your experience with a premium product was better than a mass market one, you've paid for that experience, usually to the tune of twice the amount.
So, at a time when all local suspension tuners were behind (either due to increased workload, or shortage of something or other) Fox, who was likely expecting the same thing, but on a much larger scale is somehow more responsible for that?
I had a DPX2, worked great, had it serviced regularly, still going strong for my buddy. X2 as well, works great, mine is a 2020 model, so no warranty issues that seem to have plagued them recently.
While Push might have swapped an eyelet for you under warranty, doesnt mean something else didnt happen while it was in their care. If Push is going to offer an increased warranty due to replacing a defective part, it would be in their interest to service it while there, dont you think?
You paid for that service, you just paid for it up front, in the increased purchase price, or do you get them at cost?
You certainly pay for it but you not only get better service but a better product as well. I did get a good deal on it so it was only about $350 more than a new DPX2 was at the time.
Yes, all tuners were behind but they could at least stay close to their quoted times from I've heard. Fox just kept pushing mine back, and I was ok with a 3 week or even one month delay. I got pretty frustrated when it ended up being a 2 month delay. Also, if you're a bigger company producing at a larger scale you should have the infrastructure and man power to back it all up. If not, then let me know and say its gonna take a long time to get my stuff back. If anything we should expect more of these larger companies because they have significantly more resources than our local tuners do.
My DPX2 performed well when it worked but didn't even last 50 hours of riding and had another problem shortly after the warranty, so I sold it for cheap and got a Float X to replace it. Float X is much better in my opinion, loved it and never had a problem with it.
So according to your logic, if my car had a recall on something in the engine block I should expect the dealership to go through and refresh everything, change the fluids, wear items( like belts, hoses, gaskets, sparkplugs and more), and do all that for free, in addition to the recall service, simply because its already there? My point is that they weren't obligated to do a full service on my shock or even reset my warranty and I didn't even expect that. They did it because they felt that would be good customer service, above what many other brands would do.
I actually didn't pay for that service, I paid for a high quality US made product that I wanted. I went in knowing that if I wanted it serviced I would have to pay for it. What they provided was extra and not part of the original agreement when I bought the shock from them.
Shock for life to me kind of assumes maintaining the same type of mounting design etc - it’s not the fault of Push if a frame designer comes up with some new shock mount design that Push aren’t realistically able to support.
Which frame did you have the shock on and which frame are you saying they don’t support?
That makes it kind of a bummer as the useful range of bikes that can use it is limited to what Push will tune for and if you are outside of that range you either make do and run what you have or move on.
To be fair to Push that might have been the OG 11-6 that was like this but that doesn't help you when that is the shock you bring to the table exactly.
Best customer service in the biz.
You've bought a bike, along with a threaded bottom bracket, external cable routing, and the ability to carry a water bottle, you also prioritized the same rear shock dimensions as your fancy "so many knobs" Push 11-6. Youre stoked to be riding a super cool Reeb Sqweeb (what the hell does that even mean) only to find out that Push, who advertise theyre prowess at both engineeing, and the ability to use this fancy damper for life, dont actually support a tune for youre new ride.....You've likely emailed Push, or possibly called (not as likely) and now you think that @adrennan is going to dress up in a disguise to say "just kidding, I actually bought a different bike, that you also dont likely support, maybe you can fudge a tune for this as well"?
I'm all for creative solutions, and finding ways to work around things, but that seems a bit far fetched doesnt it?
Ohlins on sport bikes, sure, decent argument, until you realize the vast majority of riders dont fiddle a damn with their sport bikes, most not even bothering to change touch points or controls. Where mtbers are quite a bit more fanatical about twiddling knobs (whether they know what theyre doing is another story) then theres the part about the ride and handling characteristics being much more about the bike, than the whole system (rider/bike/terrain) like it is in mtb, and you can start to understand why there is much less customer fiddling.
Push, to me has always seemed like a company whos $hit doesnt stink, I found them less interested in assisting, than others, but one mans perceptions dont make for a complete picture
i had a company, that makes carbon brake rotors, not want to sell me rotors for the bike i had (ie. they didn't offer it in the same bolt PCD, offset, etc... and i'm not important enough for them to make it) after i emailed back and forth a few times. instead i bought a set for a Ducati, managed to find the engineering schematics for my bike, worked with a buddy to design my own carriers that matted that rotor disc up to my wheel, had them CNC machined and anodized... walla. now i have carbon rotors haha. where there's a will, there's a way. all i'm saying.
@onawalk: you pretty much nailed my sentiment. Yes I could have e-mailed back and said I went with a different frame and combed through the bikes they had tunes for for something that matched the shock dimensions and suspension design (and I did actually call to plead with them on the matter). But that feels like something Push should have been willing to do as well. And the reeb is sweet even if the name is a little cheesy. But I don't ride a bike because of the model name.
It’s a bummer but lesson learned. Thankful I’ve found much better since then
Didnt intend on sounding like like youd be committing insurance fraud, but you get that most people aren't/scard to go to the lengths that you went to install carbon rotors. Hell, most people are so scared to add 10mm to their fork, that theyre willing to buy a new bike (same to be said for HA or SA or any number of things)
However, finding a bike with the same "numbers" isnt always practical, and isnt always the full story, and if Push isnt willing to actually custom tune the shock the for you, that exorbitant price of entry seems a bit silly doesnt it?
I'm also willing to bet, Push doesnt offer a "tune" for certain bikes is a way of protecting their shocks from undue sideloading that some frames/suspension designs can distribute. would mean less "warranty" issues, while not throwing a frame or manufacture under the proverbial bus
My initial thoughts are that without the seatstay bridge on the Reeb bikes, it puts too much undue sideloading stress on the shocks, and Push isnt comfortable with that. I think its more about protecting their shocks, than offering bike specific tunes, but that all conjecture and hearsay
If im honest, I couldnt tell you the difference between it and a tuned DHX2. I liked the idea of two distinct damper settings at the flick of the switch, but in reality, I never actually used it "on the fly". I really just used it for park days, and trail days. I could have had 2 DHX2's, tuned to my liking, for less money, and setup with different spring rates.
I would argue it is a great product, as is the DHX2. Which is better? Is it worth double the cost? I'm not a good enough rider to debate that. But I can confirm, their customer service blows.
I'm looking for a unicorn bike, and hoping the new HP Norco Optic fits the bill
As far a custom geo, we are offering it again, just at limited scope so give us a call and we'll talk about it. You can run a stock SST Mullet, long stroke the shock and get a 150/130 whip. Conveniently for you, that setup is 1deg slacker and a has a shorter reach than stock. Call us!
I'll definitly need more details on this, cause it just might be the unicorn I'm after.
What are the chances (this seems like a big ask) for a SuperBoost rear end?
120mm rear travel/140 fork
64.5 HA
76 SA
450 reach
625 stack
435 CS
390 seat tube
Hoping that gets me under 1200 wheelbase
eccentric bb
option to run mullet
As well, as said elsewhere, most issues of frame compatibility come from eye-to-eye length and head type (Standard/trunnion), so in the end you still have to send it back to the factory (Novyparts also offer this kind of service)
And on the other hand, I’ve had Ohlins and EXT go so ridiculously far above and beyond trying to do one off stuff, exchanges, changes, and more just out of stoke and fun. I’ve found easier folks to deal with and suspension I think I prefer
Speaking of specific tunes, I actually bought a first gen Push 11.6 for a Ferrum bike but it was tuned for an old Knolly Warden originally. I was super impressed on its tenability because it was terrible at first but after a spring swap and fiddling with the settings it now rips downhill but climbs amazingly well (especially for a 42 lb bike ha).
G1 for lyfe!
Really sorry???
Are you sure that cuts it when folks a many $hundreds out of pocket?
Take note on how OneUp just celebrated 10 years of service.
That is customer service.
Good products are wonderful, but what keeps a company around in my bike shop is good customer service.
I know it’s possible on Cane Creek shocks.
So did fox in 2014
Curious, do moto and sidebyside riders tune their suspension like this?
You tell him your weight, bike, trails, style, whether you are after performance/comfort/playfulness and he sends you the shock dialed with very little tuning needed on your end.
Specialized had a brain shock, no? Sounds great hahaha.
Most other shocks can be changed as such too.
I think it’s a massive bummer because I was sold on the one shock for life like 6 or so years ago when I bought the original 11.6. Since then, I’ve been told that it’ll cost me practically the same to change to my new bike as it would be to just get a new shock(I have screenshots from them to prove it) and it’s been frustrating with getting work done on the original.
That doesn’t even get into the compatibility issues and whether they’ll even support your new frame and help you or not.
Glad I’m done with 11.6. On to better shocks(IMO) and easier folks to deal with
(Probably after Xmas tho. Kids are expensive‼️♂️)
My capra came with a RS super deluxe air. I replaced it with a Bomber CR which was better. I weigh 150 lbs so I am probably outside the normal shock tunes ranges. Year later I had the avalanche damper installed and I couldn't tell a difference. Maybe I had my previous settings dialed so it wasn't a big leap in performance? Don't know. If the tune came with hydraulic bottom out or added external high speed compression adjustment, that would probably have been worth it. The special rubber bumpers they provide are better than stock, but nothing to write home about I felt. I had HBO and HSC on my BOS void a while ago and that was very nice to have.
So many variables and preferences that make it good for someone and not for others. Luckily adding the avalanche tune to a shock is only ~$200 more than paying a shop to service your shock. So it's not a bad deal, assuming the performance upgrade is worth it.
Noise aside, I have been truly loving my Arma and have 4 seasons of riding on it from relentless park laps to long days in the saddle. It has continued to perform mile after mile.
What has really sold me on EXT is a few different things but a big one outside of the performance has been the customer service I've received. I had a warranty issue pop-up a couple years ago days before a multi-day trip that I had thrown a bunch of $ down on already. My shock wasn't rideable and I was pretty sure I would be SOL. I was able to get in touch with the guys over at EXT USA who were able to ship me a demo Storia in time for my trip (no cost for the loaner). I was planning to have my Arma re-tuned anyway so after sharing feedback about what I was looking for, they put the new tune on the Storia and shipped it. The mechanic who did my tune (shoutout to Gary) let me know I could text him over the weekend while riding with any relevant feedback and he would then adjust the tune on my Arma accordingly. To me this was totally unnecessary on his part but truly appreciated by me. Outside of this, they guys at EXT USA are super responsive via email and phone. It's a small operation but you can tell they really care.
I have the Arma on my Transition Patrol and plan to put one on the DH bike I picked up over the summer.
Or am I missing something obvious here?
Cough….
Some witchcraft going on there.
Most shocks can do this, but there are still 2 standard lengths and 2 trunnion lengths to consider. Not really viable as a shock for life unless you only ever buy a bike with the same eye-to-eye and matching eyelet/trunnion style.
They have both DH and Enduro (or just a bike) versions of the MOD, they are less expensive then the EXT and you don't need to chase all the settings on the Storia round in a circle to find a setting.
www.rideformula.com/products/mtb-shocks/mod
That is the only market there is for boutique bike brands. They aren't exactly targeting DIY crowd. It's the 'more money than sense' crowd. Like most guys have me with five figure bikes... spending a lot of money to feel superior to 'the poors' is 90% point of the purchase, with 10% being for the performance/comfort improvement.
No one does that! It must be impossible! I don't believe! Take my money!
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