The lightweight eMTB market has expanded rapidly in the three years since Specialized first launched the Turbo Levo SL. There are now multiple companies offering options with weights hovering around the 40-pound mark that offer an impressive blend of power, torque, and intuitive handling, traits that had the original Levo SL looking a little outdated.
The launch of the new Levo SL puts Specialized back into the mix, thanks to updated geometry and motor technology. It's now essentially a motorized version of the Stumpjumper EVO, complete with the highly adjustable geometry that helped make that bike such a hit.
Levo SL Details• Mixed wheels / dual 29" compatible
• 150mm travel, 160mm fork
• Carbon frame
• Specialized SL 1.2 motor; 50 Nm torque, 320 W power
• 320 Wh battery, 160 Wh range extender option
• Weight: 39.3 lb / 17.8 kg (size S4, S-Works)
• MSRP: $8,000 - $15,000 USD
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specialized.com When it comes to numbers, the SL 1.2 motor now delivers 50 Nm of torque and 320 W of power, compared to the 35 Nm and 240 W the previous version dished out. Those figures put it into a similar category as Trek's Fuel ExE, which also has 50 Nm of torque from its TQ motor, or the Orbea Rise, which uses a de-tuned Shimano EP801 motor for its 60 Nm of torque.
There are four versions of the Levo SL, with prices starting at $8,000 USD for the Comp Carbon, and topping out at $15,000 USD for the S-Works LTD model. That LTD version gets RockShox's electronically controlled Flight Attendant suspension, and comes with a 160 Wh range extender battery, two of the contributing factors to the high price tag,
The version shown here is the 'standard' S-Works model, which also doesn't qualify as cheap. For $14,000 you get SRAM's XX Transmission components, a 160mm Fox Factory 36 fork and Float X shock, Code Ultimate Stealth brakes, Roval Traverse Carbon wheels, and a 160 Wh range extender.
US pricing for the Levo SL Pro hasn't been determined yet, but in Europe it's priced at €11,000.
I feel like I should at least mention that the aluminum framed, non-motorized Stumpjumper EVO Elite is currently on sale for $4,799 USD – that's a really great bike for the price, and you don't need to plug it in at the end of the ride. Just something to keep in mind.
Frame DetailsThe Levo SL might look like a Stumpjumper EVO at first glance, but look again – there's no longer a brace running from the top tube to the seat tube on the drive side. An aluminum link connects the seatstays to a mounting point at the front of the seat tube, and then a carbon fiber link (on the S-Works frame) runs from the center of that link to the shock.
The brake, derailleur, and dropper housing run through ports at the side of the headtube (as they should), and if the use of a wireless dropper or derailleur makes any of those ports unnecessary a clean looking plug keeps water from sneaking in.
There's a generous chainstay protector to keep the frame safe and minimize noise, along with a rubber flap towards the bottom of the seat tube that's meant to help keep rocks from getting pinched by the chainstays.
Other details include room for a water bottle (or a range extending battery), SRAM Transmission or universal derailleur hanger compatibility, and Specialized's handy little SWAT multi-tool hidden in the steerer tube.
Phew, no thru-headset routing to be seen here.
Specialized calls the small display mounted in the top tube the 'Mastermind Turbo Control Unit'. It's highly customizable depending on which information a rider prioritizes the most, and it's also what allows for over-the-air updates when new features are released.
The control for the motor sits on the left side of the handlebar, where it's used to toggle through the Eco, Trail, and Turbo modes. There's also a MicroTune mode (accessed by holding down the upper toggle for a few seconds), which switches the amount of power in 10% increments.
In addition to getting more power and torque compared to the previous generation, the SL 1.2 motor is now quieter, thanks to a gearbox update and a new two-piece motor housing with a honeycomb-like structure that Specialized says was designed to help dissipate noise.
GeometryFor the sake of space, I've only included one geometry chart in this article – for all of the options, head over to Specialized's website. There are two different upper headset cups – one puts the bike into the 'neutral' setting, and the other can be used to increase or decrease the head angle by 1-degree, depending on which way it's oriented.
There's another adjustment at the rear shock mount, which changes the bottom bracket height, and then the final setting is at the rear wheel – that's where you'll find a flip chip that's used to select the wheel size. The Levo SL comes stock with a 27.5” rear wheel, but switching to a dual 29” setup is as easy as getting a larger rear wheel and switching the orientation of that chip - there isn't any aftermarket link required. If you were to run a 27.5” wheel in the 29” setting the chainstay length would be longer, but the bottom bracket height would likely be uncomfortably low, at least with the stock 160mm fork.
There are six frame sizes, with reach numbers ranging from approximately (since it depends on the geometry setting) 405mm to 525mm. The head angle can be set as slack as 63.8-degrees and steepened up to 65.7-degrees. In the neutral, low bottom bracket setting, the head angle is 64.6-degrees, the chainstay length is 432mm, and the seat angle is 75.8-degrees.
Ride ImpressionsI've spent hundreds of hours pedaling around a non-motorized Stumpjumper Evo, so the geometry of the new Levo felt familiar right off the bat. It's much more versatile than the previous version, which was on the steeper and shorter side of things. The new Levo SL is an easy bike to handle, a trait that's helped by the reduced weight compared to a full-powered e-bike. Now, I wouldn't be rushing out to do long rides with the battery off, but it's not
that hard to pedal around without any assistance, which helps reduce any anxiety when the battery level starts to get low.
The Levo SL loves to manual and slap around tight turns, but the back end did feel a bit short at times. Going with a 29” wheel and the associated longer chainstay length (442mm) could be the ticket to gain a more balanced ride position – we'll give that a try during the long term test.
The increased torque and power compared to the previous version are welcome changes, delivering more 'oomph' for getting up steep, techy climbs. The Levo SL has a satisfying amount of power, even in the trail mode - it's quick without feeling frantic, and the extra assistance makes it easy to want to go up for another lap, or go see where an unfamiliar trail leads. That said, there's still a sizable speed and effort gap between this and a full powered e-bike - it's a lot harder to get to the top of a steep climb on the Levo SL than it would be compared to the full power Levo. Of course, it's obviously a lot easier on either option than it would be without a motor.
Personally, my ideal eMTB is still at least a few years away. I want the battery capacity and torque of a full-power e-bike combined with the lighter weight of options like this Levo SL. I'm convinced it'll happen someday, but at the moment there's still around a 10 pound weight difference between the two different styles. The Levo SL is for riders that want something that feels much closer to a 'traditional' mountain bike, but with the ability to cover more ground in a shorter amount of time. The heavier full-power options can make mellower trails feel almost boring at times, while the Levo feels right at home on the same trails you'd typically ride on a bike without a motor.
Like its non-motorized sibling, the Levo SL can comfortably take on a wide range or terrain, whether that's twisty, jump filled trails, or rougher, more natural tracks. The 150mm of travel is well managed, and the tune on the Fox Float X shock does a good job of keeping the bike from going through that travel too quickly - even off of bigger drops or on mis-timed jumps I didn't encounter any harsh bottom outs. One of my chief complaints about the original Levo SL had to do with the amount of motor noise – the high pitched mechanical whine was quite annoying, at least to me. Those obnoxious decibels have been removed, and the updated motor is much easier to live with, and I didn't find it to be distracting at all.
Look for a more in-depth review, including comparisons to other bikes in this category, later this summer.
Thats not a 'personally' thing...this is what everyone wants from an eMTB.
Yet this thing costs twice as much, because motor manufacturers have an agreement with bike frame manufacturers not to sell their kits to consumer market, so that the prices can artificially be inflated
As for Luna selling it, I mean sure, but, poor support, have to do some building of it, there are a lot of complaints about reliability of the battery, on and on.
So-support, reliability, design and development matter. Also, that Luna is almost 10lbs heavier than this.
Bafang drives are reliable. Luna put some custom firmware on them to squeeze more juice out of the motor, which is where most of the issues came from. My wifes Electra has a Bafang BBSHD kit on it that I tuned to run way under peak, and it has seen no issues what so ever. The only concern with Bafang mid drives is that I believe that the batteries are "proprietary", which is probably done for safety reasons.
The point is that with a smaller motor and lower capacity battery you would have the same weight as the Levo SL at a much cheaper price point.
Sad thing is, if Pinkbike spent time reviewing all the Chinese/Taiwanese direct carbon ebikes and proved that they were as reliable (or unreliable depending on what you consider is good reliability) as the overpriced popular brands, you would see a gradual decline. Or alternatively, one of those brands should just sponsor an up and coming pro rider like what Haibike did with Sam Pilgrim.
It's the full size 85 Newton meter Yamaha motor with a 400 W battery and a 200 W adapter. You can change all of the settings to extend your range or go full power.
For big days in big hills I put the +50% range extender on and, being frugal, can do 30miles and 6000feet, but it would be nice to have more extender options so I can do a full +100% or even +150%.
The specialized range extender works out at £2000/kWh which is an INSANE price. At those prices we should be getting cutting edge solid-state or semi-solid-state batteries with really really good energy densities.
CATL is working on a battery technology that output 500Wh per KG, so something like a Santa Cruz Heckler could sit below 43 lbs with a 1000Wh battery.
I see how it can work for those situations, solo rides, etc. If you were to ride with any normal e-bikes tho would be different. Had a few friends in our group that could never keep up and eventually sold and went back to the kenevo
E-bikes are a great invention for people that have disabilities/old school riders that still love cycling which is amazing, but e-bikes are no way as nimble as enduro/downhill bikes on the trails up or down period which in my opinion is the fun part of this sport…cycling a bike at your most physical possible pace is what it’s all about…
The argument of being "only one cm" does not float as one is a trail-trail bike and the other is a real bike with real down the hill capabilities!, **by the way, you self canceled your own argument by saying that your modified your rise to be a 160-147mm bike. If it was only one cm, why did you do it?**, like I have previously said.. it is not only the travel.. it is the whole bike. One is a trail bike.. and very good at that.. the other one is something you could run succesfully in an enduro race. Different type of bikes, not only once cm of difference.
This is the problem with “e-bikes”. They’re just mopeds.
The need for the cranks to be spinning on a Broped for the motor to provide power just greenwashes a motorized vehicle.
Who really needs Flight Attendant?
Who can do w/out Transmission or AXS?
Maybe waive the Kashima coating?
You might not even want the motor…
And already you have plenty of good options for less than half of the price.
These lower wattage/lower battery bikes go through battery insanely quickly if you're not light and fit. These things are fun as hell to ride though.
It's by the way straight up ridiculous that the e-moped from Specialized costs 15k while KTM will sell you an actual electric MX bike for 12k.
Specialized is to be blamed, rather than E-bikes itself, they don't give a f**ck about riders, they just want to sell bikes to Swiss dentists.
$15K USD is $20K CDN (current May 2023 exchange of 1.35x). That's steep and obscene but in line with other overpriced top-end bikes.
I really don't hate e-bikes, I just despise the gluttonous consumption of the country I inhabit. E-bikes are pretty fun.
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I don't doubt that it's the safest, but it's massive! It's like Sputnik, spherical, but quite pointy in parts.
EDIT - its reverse order... I get it now.
People making Bentonville sound like its Durango
The biggest advantage was being able to do lap after lap on Coler's north hub, and actually session the jumps instead of just hitting them a couple times. Made some big improvements in just one afternoon.
We also did shuttle runs on Leatherwood DH trails on our non-eMTBs, if that improves our Bentonville cred lol
Perfectly acceptable paradox.
Gone ar the days of high end 8-9k bikes.. and no, inflations does not add up to the difference; bike companies simply realised that there are lots of ppl with the financial means to pay for 15-20k bikes.
In the same way a civic type R from a couple of years ago was 30-32k..and now the same model is 60k euro, bikes that were once 6k now are double the price. As long as there is demand for 15-20k, brands will produce and sell them.
The steel is also almost back to regular prices before the pandemic.. plastic isn't.. but, the difference does should not amount to more than 5 to 7%. In fact, some factories are so desperate for orders they even give better prices than at the end of 2019.
What I am trying to say is that the current prices are not due to anything happening on the supply chain.. from placing the orders to receiving the goods in your designated warehouses... no, in my opinion(seeing what's also happening in the company in which I activate), these prices are a consequence of meetings and many discussions between marketing, financial and sales departaments; supply chain is at its 2019 level.. maybe even better, depending on the currency you work with. (for example, in Europe is a little worse as the $ got stronger in and after the pandemic)
I mean, I'm doing exactly what you suggest - but plenty of people with not-unlimited funds (i.e. a budget) will be wanting an eeb so they can join in with their eeb fwends.
IF the motor really will fit older bikes, then I think Specialized would do very well to consider offering an upgrade kit.
It would probably have to be Motor + TCU2 and possibly new guard/cover and crank options maybe.
But:-
1. It would really help them shift old stock of gen1 bikes.
2. It would really help their green credentials (much better to keep an "old" (largely) non-recyclable CF bike going for longer than have it in landfill).
3. It would help support second hand values, making it easier for existing owners to sell their old bike and upgrade to the new.
4. It would help sell new bikes to people worried about "investing" in an uncommon motor standard. If you buy a Shimano or Bosch bike, the perception is that you could later upgrade to newer more powerful motors as they are launched. (this was definitely a major consideration/worry/hurdle for me when I bought my SL 7 months ago). If they offer the 1.2 motor to gen1 owners then the implication is that they might offer 1.3 motors to gen 2 owners down the line. The pace of change in eMTBs is so fast that I bet a lot of potential purchasers are stuck waiting to see what the next big thing is. I certainly know several people who are like this, been considering a lightweight ebike for well over a year but always changing their minds as a new one is launched.
5. It would allow them to offer a better solution to people like me who are waiting for a warranty motor for a 1.1. As it stands they will be out of pocket a new motor and shop labour to fit plus shipping etc. If they offered me an upgrade to the 1.2 at cost price then suddenly the negative experience of a warranty so early in ownership plus the profit lost would be converted to a modest sale, a very happy customer, and a reduced likelihood of a subsequent second warranty claim.
6. Its all good for brand loyalty.
Against this you have what? The chance that someone will decide NOT to buy the new bike and instead upgrade their existing SL? If so you STILL make a good sale (£1.5-2k maybe? on an item with just one SKU no sizes and colours to complicate things and you can justify holding stock and turn warranty stock into goods on hand)
Also I think that that is a very small number of people, more likely you lose customers to TQ, Shimano, Fazua, Bosch etc options.
The new LevoSL still has all the geometry and suspension upgrades to swing the balance.
There is a well known marketing quirk, that if you can change your customers mindset from "should I buy brand A or brand B"; to "should I buy model X or model Y from brand A" then you've essentially won the sale. Offering the motor upgrade would change existing owners mindset from; "Specialized Levo SL Gen2 or Trek TQ or Transition Relay (or whatever)" to "Levo SL Gen 2 bike or motor".
The ONLY real hurdle is persuading Specialized that it is worth offering the parts to their loyal customers.
How/what makes that possible, just a cover and/or motor clutch or something? I think Relay is 40lbs w/out battery so if it was possible on this rig, this thing could be a lot lighter, but w/battery I think the Relay has more juice in a similar package.
Battery rental in popular destinations seems more likely.
I might need to start tipping my dentist
Is there noise from the drivetrain on pedal kickback when descending?
I'm with you on the ideal emtb @mikekazimer , needs to be mid power weight but have the battery capacity of full power bikes. I'd be good with the assist to be in the middle of the two classes.
However once the novelty has worn off ebikes I ride mine way less. Real mountain bikes are way more satisfying to ride.
cough - get a normal bike
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I don't know where, but I heard/read somewhere that battery tech has virtually 'maxed out' at this point so perhaps getting the same power/range out of something lighter is either a long way off or never going to happen.
Its kind of silly for typical trail systems that are mostly flat with some punchy climbs.
You are welcome.
The integration of the electrical part is top notch and the Mastermind has all the info one would like to have, at the right place.
Marketing in the presentation has no equal, I recommend watching the two videos on the Specialized Youtube channel for the launch!
But at the light of thistest, it seems to me that on the engine/battery side, Specialized has missed the opportunity to innovate or at least catch up with the other Light systems on the market. It seemed to me more of a self-referential evolution, aimed at solving the problems of the previous engine, rather than restoring the distance with the competitors who have grown so much in the same segment, in recent months.
On paper it could be the ideal bike for "epic ride" but then having kept the 320 Wh battery (with Orbea Rise which has relaunched with the double option 360/540 Wh and Fazua which has a 420 Wh battery and excellent efficiency) and having increased the power of the engine.. epic rides end after 1500m D+??
As for the maximum power, which they say has gone from 240W to 320W, I can say that even the current Kenevo SL, with the SL 1.1 engine, delivers about 310W, at least that's what the Mastermind says...
The ONLY real hurdle is persuading Specialized that it is worth offering the parts to their loyal customers.
I agree 100% with this statement and a much lighter, more efficient battery has been reported to be in development so I'm saving my money.
Personally would love one, but every one you see second hand has had either motor or battery replaced under warranty so no chance I would take that risk
In hindsight I think I should have bought a second hand one for half the money. Lots of independent places will fix the motor for you and I could have bought a spare to quickly swap in and then fix myself (daren't fix this one myself for fear of losing that all important warranty). BB bearings normally only last me a year (at most) anyway so having the motor unservicable means it is inevitable I'll need warranty...
Assuming you get a good bike fit, your hips will always end up in the same place in relation to the bottom bracket. Therefore, a combination of reach and stack height (within reason) should be quite useful in getting a bike to fit the rider properly.
Entirely possible that I am missing something in my thinking - but I'm trying to figure out why anyone would look at effective top tube from a bike fit perspective (again, within reason).
the bikes I had were between 578 ett and 628mm...with reach varying between 414 and 472mm.
On my current bike, the combo is 609 ett with 468 reach and a 40mm stem; 10mm forward on the rails for my saddle. These dimensions are already at the limit of what I can comfortably handle on a bike.. so, going even bigger is a no go for sure.
For this new levo SL, something around 615-620 ett with around 460mm reach would have been great, for me at least. (especially since they reco using a 35mm stem)
Engineers: ...
Managers: MOOORE www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxgHmbM3Ig0
Here's hoping the new KSL will have the magic sauce.
MK, where is the Relay review?
442mm in 29’er mode is at least not mega short. But still low key surprised they didn’t carry over the larger sizes longer chainstays.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbFCT4EoydI&list=RDMMw7CrcR0B93c&index=27
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbFCT4EoydI&list=RDMMw7CrcR0B93c&index=27
Because he wanted to be able to "crown" himself the king of the trails!"
AI is weird.
admittedly I shouldn't bunch all of em together in the same boat
- Tooth hurty
Fit people who don't need so much help?
Unfit people who just want a little boost to ride with people on normal bikes?
People who have to lift or carry their eeb over gates or up mountains?
People who want to retain normal bike ride feel?
That’s okay-there’s a place for that. And that place isn’t non-motorized trails. Where I see jerks riding their Bropeds on a regular basis.
You can have good, sustainable singletrack for non-motorized users. Or you can have a hellacape of rutted, blown out trails where braap machines are allowed.
Ride Poison Spider. Then ride Mag7-Portal. Make your decision.
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In all fairness, if this is anything like my SJ evo, it's f*cking rad.
Their engines are just not reliable... Don go far from the road in a Brose or spez bike... you migh regret it..
Ive broken 6 frames in 3 months from them.. Had to call it quits...