The flat pedal shoe market is no longer dominated by just one brand, with multiple worthy options being released over the last couple of years. We rounded up three of the newest options and compared them to a perennial favorite, Five Ten's Impact Pro.
A few of the factors that make up the grip of a great flat pedal shoe are the sole's tread depth, pattern, thickness, width, and of course the rubber properties. Flex and traction can be a personal preference or change depending on the intended use. For example, a freerider may not want the bulkiest, stickiest option, which would make floating around the pedals while unweighted over jumps next to impossible, whereas enduro or downhill racers want their feet to remain glued in place and only available to dab when necessary.
Ride Concepts Tallac
At first glance, you might mistake this pair of Ride Concepts for a Five Ten Impact with its wrap-around sole and upper profile. The Tallac, or Flume in the women's lineup, is the newest of their gravity-based flat pedal shoes and Ride Concepts have done their homework on this one.
On the outside of the shoe is a hard-wearing Cordura mesh that is bonded to Max Grip rubber with a hexagon pattern underfoot. Those six-sided polygon lugs are inverted at the toe and heel when hiking and the rubber is thicker in these areas to add protection. Inside of the shoe at those ends are D3O pads to absorb impacts with an EVA midsole for supple support.
Details• Max Grip rubber hexagon patterns on toe and heel
• Bonded upper featuring Cordura mesh
• TPU toe and heel protection
• D3O High Impact Zone Technology insole
• EVA midsole for extra cushion and support
• Colors: Black/Charcoal, Charcoal/Oxblood, Olive/Lime
• Sizes: US 7-13
• Weight: 412 grams (size 42, per shoe)
• MSRP: $160 USD
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rideconcepts.com Traction: I've spent plenty of years on flat pedals and scoffed at almost all other Five Ten competitors, but the Ride Concepts' Max Grip rubber comes extraordinarily close to that magical, tacky feel that Stealth Rubber is known for. Off the bike, the Tallac's hexagon tread wins hands down over round dots that lack any square edges, especially in wet loam, grass, or snow. Moving your foot on the pedal isn't impossible, even with tall pins on the
Giant Pinner Pro pedals which have become a new favorite, while the thickness and damping levels of the rubber keep your lower limbs nailed down when you apply pressure. The soles are consistent, no matter where your feet land on the pedal because it's very flat and wider than the shoe itself; a very important attribute to feeling stable and increasing the chance of a firm foot hold.
Fit: The tongue is well padded and doesn't slide to the side, nor does it cut into your foot as you pedal or walk. Holding tight, old school laces are hard to beat for even pressure, plus they stay snug and can be neatly tucked into an elastic loop on top of the tongue. A deep, comfy heel cup really latches on to the back of your foot, never lifting or rubbing while hiking either. With a moderately wide toe box and mild arch, these fit true to size, although I did get some hot spots underfoot on the first two rides, which isn't totally uncommon for me.
Function: Sitting on the burlier side of flat pedal shoes, the Tallac is built with a perfect blend of weight, grip, and comfort. It's not a bulky high top, nor is it a skateboard shoe rehashed for mountain biking. There is just the right amount of protection in the toe, on the sides. Coupled with a thin, wide sole that damps vibrations. If I was throwing limbs off for some style points more often, I might want something like the Shimano GR9s with a similar structure but more freedom to declaw from the pedal pins.
The strong Cordura material isn't as breathable as the airy Scott SHR-ALPs and they do take longer to dry out, which is expected when you compare their volumes side by side. Another strong, but less desirable, attribute of the Tallac's was the pungent rubber smell that hasn't subsided since I opened the box, despite a good scrub with laundry detergent.
Overall, the Tallac hit the sweet spot for me. They have an excellent blend of padding to weight, without being complete vapor-lock barriers. That thin, grippy, shock-absorbing sole rivals the Five Ten Impact, plus it doesn't look like a moon boot.
Pros
+ Wide sole underfoot gives solid purchase anywhere on the pedals
+ Excellent compromise between flexibility and security
+ Max Grip is extremely close to Five Ten Sticky Rubber
Cons
- Harsh rubber smell from manufacturing
- Not as breathable as some other shoes
Shimano GR9
Although white vinyl might not be everyone's style choice for mountain bike footwear (a black colorway is available), there are plenty of features in Shimano's new GR9 flat pedal shoe. The redesigned GR9 also improves upon the previous iteration with a high volume toe box and an increase to the under-arch surface area for more control on flat pedals. For 2022 the gravity shoes also come with an integrated gaiter to keep out any unwanted trail debris, a padded inner-ankle section, and an elastic lace loop.
Details• Ultread Gravity sole
• Asymmetric padded ankle protection
• Colors: Black and Smoke White
• Sizes: 38-48
• Weight: 399 grams (size 42, per shoe)
• MSRP: $170 USD
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shimano.com Traction: To sum it up quickly, grip levels are great, but not quite Stealth Rubber territory though. I would place them in line with Five Ten's Freerider Pro for shape and feel - more of a skateboard shoe tuned for mountain biking. You don't feel as engaged with the bike compared to the Ride Concept Tallac. The Ultread Gravity sole's rubber is tacky, although not quite soft enough for the pins to sink in deeply, and I could feel the back half of the pedal bouncing against my foot in rougher terrain.
Fit: I do love the addition of the gaiter-style cuff to defend against debris lodging under your foot while riding, but I wish it was fully enclosed. Attaching just forward of the sides of the talus bone, the gaiter stitching did start to irritate my feet once in a while.
If you have wide feet, these could be your next flat pedal shoe. Once upon a time, Shimano offered some shoes in a regular and wide option; the GR9 could use the narrower option because these are on the larger size in terms of volume. Since these shoes are only offered in full sizes only, I would highly suggest trying before buying.
Function: You can expect to feel more bump feedback through the shoe. The sole is quite stiff with a shallow tread, albeit, plenty wide. That makes them a bit dull to the senses. I would have to mindfully keep my heels dropped while climbing or my foot would bounce forward and off the pedal, but not so much due to the lack of friction, but the lack of damping.
The GR9s are a quality pair of shoes with lots of air flow, adding to their versatility, even though they lean towards the gravity spectrum with their firmness. For a larger rider, this could be a benefit though and could be exactly what you're looking for.
Pros
+ Well vented, even with gaiter
+ Lots of support in ankles and sole
Cons
- Shallow lugs and firm rubber don't absorb bumps softly
- Gaiter could be taller and better integrated
Scott SHR-ALP BOA
I'm right there with other flat pedal enthusiasts that are asking for more features when it comes to choosing a shoe: BOAs, gaiters, waterproof, and protection. Scott does just that with their slender offering aimed at all-mountain riding, the SHR-ALP BOA. If you're a fan of old-school laces, Scott offers the exact same shoe without the single wire and dial.
The SHR-ALPs don't appear to be your average flat pedal shoe - they look like they are straight out of the clipless side of the catalogue, which isn't a negative. Their vented tongue and toe box keep the dank air moving out of your socks, even at low speeds.
Details• "Sticki Rubber outsole"
• BOA® Fit System
• Sizes: 40-48
• Weight: 466 grams (size 42, per shoe)
• MSRP: $119.99 USD
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scott-sports.com Traction: Turning over the SHR-ALPs is when you first realize these are simply a clipless look-a-like. The widely spaced and oddly twisted, hexagon lugs that taper to triangles in the mid-sole use Sticki Rubber. That tread doesn't lead to a lot of the rubber actually touching the pedal pins, so it's easier to re-position your foot on the pedal. The pins play a bit of pinball in the lugs and I would describe the rubber as a middle ground in terms of tackiness and softness when looking back on Five Ten's sticky rubber.
Fit: As a polar opposite of the Shimano GR9 being wide and roomy, the SHR-ALPs are on the narrow and slim side. For my medium-wide, 42 size foot, these were on the snug side through the mid-foot and toe box with a moderately high arch on the insole.
Function: The SHR-ALPs have a more mechanical feel to them, thin and stiff without the same level of damping or all-out grip as Five Ten Stealth rubber, or even the other two gravity-based shoes featured above. Some of this could be down to the fact that the sole wasn't completely flat, or particularly wide. Even when weighted, my foot wouldn't compress the sole to land flat on the pedal. That inner and outer edge across the width of the sole could be felt connecting first or more apparent than the middle.
Installs are dead simple with the BOA closure, but I did desire a tighter fit at the top of the tongue to lock my heel in further. A dual tension system of a BOA lace and a velcro strap would be beneficial here. Not surprisingly, the extra tension needed from the BOA and the short, thin tongue would bite into the front of my foot when I cranked down on the dial system. Otherwise, I think the SHR-ALP would make a great all-day affair shoe because of their light construction, venting, easy on and offs, and moderate grip levels... if I could lock my foot in without that pinch from the BOA wire.
Pros
+ Highly breathable
+ Solid ankle support for a light shoe
+ Pedal pins sit deeply in tread
Cons
- Sole profile is not flat across width
- Narrow sole might not be for everyone
- Tongue is short and thin
Five Ten Impact Pro
Five Ten's Stealth rubber formula changed the game for flat pedal riders. Only then did we start to see a resurgence of flat pedal maniacs like Nathan Rennie, Chris Kovarik, and Sam Hill start to dominate the first decade of the millennium. Without their success, may have missed out on Five Ten's entrance into mountain biking. Remember, Intense actually licensed the rubber first but had difficulties keeping their shoes on the market.
Not a whole lot has changed since then either. The rubber is basically the same and the shoes are a hybrid between a soft hiking boot and a totally flat skateboard shoe. Make no mistake though, the Impact Pros are built for mountain biking and cater to the gravity side of the sport with a protective toe cap, traditional laces, and no extra flashy features.
Details• Stealth S1 rubber
• Quick-dry synthetic
• Impact resistance PORON reinforced toe box
• Compression-molded PU midsole
• Sizes: 6-15
• Weight: 539 grams (size 42, per shoe)
• MSRP: $160 USD
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adidas.com The pair I've kept around for almost four years now has seen plenty of wear and tear, not to mention being drowned through those soggy North Shore winter months, which is why they look a lot more haggard than the others on trial.
Traction: Every time a new shoe brand enters the market, they can't escape the comparison to Five Ten's Stealth Rubber. The Impact Pro's classic dots now alternate between two different sizes. Only the dullest or shortest pins will allow for any adjustment without lifting your foot off of the pedal. Riders who aren't as accurate with their initial foot placement may not like the gluey feeling, but once you land in an ideal spot, slipping a pedal never happens.
The Ride Concepts Max Grip rubber compound and the pattern does give the Stealth Rubber a good run for its money. If the Impacts are a ten out of ten for grip, the Tallacs are a close nine.
Fit: The first qualm I had with the shoes before spending any time in them was the Adidas' method of sizing. That changed from the old Sam Hill Impact model to the Impact Pro, so I had to drop down from a US 9 to an 8.5 for a tighter fit. Secondly, the right shoe's foam through the heel cup dropped significantly and it also started to occur on the left as well. There's simply not enough depth to the heel cup.
I also had issues getting the laces tight enough to lock the tongue down and prevent my heel from lifting. In combination with the already shallow heel cup, this rendered the Impact Pros useless for sessioning or on backcountry adventures, when hiking was frequent.
Function: Similarly to the Tallacs, a wide sole gives a solid feeling on the pedals. This is so crucial to standing stable on the pedals and keeping your foot weighted, avoiding any side loading as you move around the bike, potentially lifting the inside or outside of the pedal pin arrangement - that was my main gripe with the Scott SHR-ALPs.
Coupled with that wide and ultra tacky tread, the sole is thin, yet the rubber helps to damp and vibrations you may get through braking bumps and the like. They feel more alive than the Shimanos and provide positive connectivity with the bike. Breathability and dry time are still not the best, however, those are still small cons I'd be willing to deal with given the levels of traction the Impacts have.
Used and abused. These Five Ten Impacts served as my main flat pedal shoes when the focus was on pointing bikes downhill.
Pros
+ Stealth Rubber is still the ruler for all-out grip and damping
+ Ventilation and drying time has been improved substantially from previous versions
Cons
- Needs another set of eyelets, longer tongue, and deeper heel cup to eliminate heel lift
- Hiking traction could be improved in soft, wet conditions
Editor's ChoiceWill any of these shoes replace the Five Ten Impact Pros as my current favorite flat pedal shoe? For gravity-based riding, I'm on board with grabbing the Ride Concepts Tallac right now. The grip is close Five Ten's Stealth rubber, and I found the fit to be superior.
There are characteristics of the Shimano GR9s that I really enjoyed too, like a massive sense of fresh air keeping your feet cool, even with that gaiter, plus the stiff, tacky sole for staying strong those times I jumped the bike a little too deep. The Scott SHR-ALPs also vent well and I can appreciate the convenience of the BOA. With a few refinements, they could be a great alternative to the bulkier flat pedal shoes on the market.
Why is everyone so bummed about replacing shoes every season? Folks should probably replace shoes, grips, and tires more often than they do. Skip the fancy fork upgrade and get it serviced instead and and then get your contact points dialed in.
I also have wide feet, and it’s been a legit nightmare finding wide enough riding shoes. I’ve been running Shimano GR5’s for a couple years now, with the insole removed along with running super thin socks. I tried the GR7 they were too narrow. It’s interesting you mention the GR9’s haven’t tried them yet. What I’m looking into now(when they come back in stock) are the Lake MX 1 flat in wide. They look more like sneakers, but if the toe box is wide enough they should be a win.
Some of the best bike stuff money I ever spent.
And these (and the Sam Hills) had the perfect balance between pedal ‘feel’ and stiffness for all day heavy riding.
P.S. you don’t text message break-up!
This is such an outdated reference. Purpose built flat pedal shoes have been around for at least a decade by any reckoning it not longer. "Rehashed" skate shoes aren't being pushed really by anyone anymore, and haven't been for years.
Impact is pretty heavy, but if you're a pro DH racer or heavy on the gas in the park, you stay planted, don't smash toes dropping a toe off the front or bruise it when you're dangling a foot off in scree rock or roots.
I run Freerider Pro's for all my trail rides but can't use them in the bike park. My feet get exhausted in thin soles like that. They are slightly less flexible than the Freerider and more water resistant. But for a full day of DH laps, Impacts make a difference for me.
But then there are guys wearing Vans slides and swearing that life is the best in thin stuff.
So try them ALL!!!
1. Grippy sole
2. Durable uppers
The rest isnt even that good. They are heavy, have bad heel retention, absorb water like a sponge, not breathable and have a flimsy paper mache midsole.
They are my favourite flat pedal shoe, but objectively speaking they arent even that good, yet no other manufacturer can even match them for 2-3x the price.
If you're racing downhill, fully pinned at 100% and your feet skip even a little or slip on the pedal, it can mean a very big wreck or explosion. In DH racing over random slick/rough/gnarly/chunky terrain when you can't perfectly link every single bit, they're the difference between racing and wrecking.
Feet glued to the pedals or being able to just get part of your foot on after it's been knocked off...and it stays put until you can ride a crazy section out and re-position is critical.
I just saw an old World Cup race win where 4 of the top 6 at Fort William were all running FiveTen Impacts.
I still think there can be World Cup wins galore on flats, but kids have become convinced that DH has to be clipped in.
Suspension setup, bike setup, seatpost height, even reach, bar height...you name it. They all have to be completely different to race DH on flats. And Impacts are the shoe to race DH in if you want to risk it all.
rideconcepts.com/collections/mens-shoes/products/men-s-tallac-boa
No idea why they discontinued them.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzUqf_OF8j8
I’m sure a lot of those riders said “make them like Freerider Pros or Impacts, but with these changes”.
And companies just kept making crappy, greasy soled junk.
Nice to see companies like RC finally (FINALLY) offering viable alternatives to 5.10 stuff. I might even try a different brand when the current Freerider Pros wear out.
The fivetens seem to have a shorter lifetime than 10 years ago.
But due to thei availability they are still my go to. I can get Freeriders for a little over 50 euros often in sales
If you want more grip, they simply have to be less durable. Anything you add regardless of the imaginary science a company implies, if they make a rubber sole or tire last longer, it will reduce grip.
I always find the midsole is shot in Freeriders before the outsole is burned through. The stiffer sole on the Pros seems to last as long as the rubber, and I replace them when my feet are sore from flexy soles/lack of grip on long techy descents.
That was a big issue, but everyone at that point got an upgrade warranty pair of freebies that didn't have that issue.
I literally had the exact same decision to make 3 weeks ago. I looked at all the "cool" variations of the Pros to replace my worn out 2 year old stinky Pros. And I decided not to screw it up and ordered the exact same shoes I had. They're the exact same sole as before. Stealth S1.
pics of this horrible pair of soles please...
My first pair of five tens was the freerider pro primeblue. I was slipping around quite a bit on the pedals and didn’t understand why people liked five tens so much. I just bought a pair of freerider pro canvas (which looks like the exact same shoe without the primeblue logo on the back) and they are so much grippier.
I did notice on the Adidas website that it said "Stealth", not "S1" or "Mi6". One would think you'd stick with the compound that made you famous, but trying to appeal to every category means other compounds I guess.
The Five Ten website used to have a link in each shoe's description that would take you to the "Stealth Compounds" *PLURAL* page where you could read exactly what the sole you're purchasing did.
Adidas' website has always been garbage. Someone like JensonUSA or WorldWide Cycling would be smart to create a separate page on site to split the differences for consumers.
Provide a service the manufacturer doesn't and gain a happy customer.
Had to discuss with 2nd level customer support from Adidas for wanting my money back for a used shoe. (Obviously you only find the issue with no grip by riding them)
Got it back though and bought normal Freerides.
Okay, clearly the article is written by so wine who rides clipless, but come on, fit is whatever, sole stickiness is overdone, but sole stiffness is key to understanding the intent of the shoe.
Sole stiffness scale 1-5 out of the box, then reassess after a season if use, this is what we need.
RC shoes are prone to softening up significantly with use, I wouldn’t buy their shoes again with more info on sole stiffness.
I ride the Pearl Izumi mid, boa, nylon midsole, water resistant, instep strap. No if the shoes reviewed can touch it, but it didn’t get reviewed because… Pearl didn’t pay the price of entry .
If you've railing chunk, sending drops and hitting jumps, you have to balance sole stiffness/efficiency with feel. Freerider Pros are good from "don't fall" high consequence tech to Trestle park laps to 40-60 mile XC races. Still no other shoe that has quite that bandwidth yet, but RC and Spesh come closest (and may be a better option if they fit your foot better).
Also, if you think you need a stiffer midsole, you might benefit from a better pedal platform-try some Deftraps!!
Just switched to the Etnies Culvert Mid after hearing many positive reviews on the Etnies line up, and I’m thoroughly impressed so far.
And these (and the Sam Hills) had the perfect balance between pedal ‘feel’ and stiffness for all day heavy riding.
I’ve never been riding in my 5Tens and thought ‘I wish they were less grippy’.
Btw @mattbeer could you please define dead and alive? I'd say dead is when the pedal is doing one thing and the boot is doing something else...
NorthWave Michelin soles have been my shoe of choice.