I remember those days of building jumps with the landing pad and jump being built from a hole you dig in the middle then caseing it just like that kid, as my friends looked on knowing I wasn’t going to make it lol
I read the post (now in the hidden comments) that asked PB to stop posting these fail videos because they glorify risk-taking riders that don’t have enough experience. For me, it’s quite the opposite. I watch many videos showing pro riders inspiring me to rider better, faster, etc., but these fail videos show the other side; the reality that if you’re not ready, you wreck yourself.
except do you notice the good riders who crash doing significantly harder tricks seldom seem to hurt themselves as much as the dudes in track pants with no helmets.
Well, except for that dude who has the dump 270 on lock and decided to take it to dirt...
At the same time half of those fails happen on really shitty jumps. I can already see people on some coaching sites going: did he crash because he leaned back on the take off? "Don't lean back" is the new "lean back" on skills clinics. Meanwhile most people crash because they are stiff and/or unlucky on shitty jumps. Finally the law of statistics will take over even the best jumpers. If you jump often you will crash no matter who you are and sometimes camera is there.
@WAKIdesigns: unlucky on shitty jumps lmao....any decent rider is going to take a look at something before hitting it at speed and adjust accordingly based on the jankometer.
Experience yields proper adjustment...
That said, I see no hope for many of these people.
You can definitely adjust how explosively you press into a lip based on its speed steepness/shape to get a better result. Common cause of bucking is entering the lip with over extended arms aka no ability to pump the front end. Makes the front wheel take a much lower arc than the rear @nvranka:
All of the crashes with any type of helmet is a good argument for wearing a helmet. All I'm saying is I'm sure there are more then a few video's of people eating it wearing proper gear to be found. They are the people who should get the "glory" of being featured. We partake in a high risk activity, we should try and promote it as safely as possible when we can.
The person putting these videos together is creating content for a site that promotes mountain biking. Every post on this site is promoting mtb in some way. It could be an ad for new product or Jordie Lunn's new gnarly AF video. These producers have a responsibility (I think) to represent our sport in a safe way. Just my opinion I guess, and maybe I'm way off base but I think we should try to represent or sport the best way we can.
It is funny you mention Jordie Lunn because I think just like Matt McDuff or Darren Berrecloth, the guy is a complete lunatic, who went way beyond any calculation of risk vs reward, whatever they do is a form of avant garde modern art and as unbelievably impressive and stimulating it may be, one could wonder if anybody would like to have any of these psychopaths as neighbors. I am sure they are fine lads, outgoing, enthusiastic driven, electrifying any environment they enter, sure, but they are just so out there I have no idea how helpful their art is to anybody else but their own egos. Nice to chat with at dirt jump site, crankworx, have a dinner with, if I had a daughter in their age and they showed up nearby with hope in their eyes, I’d shoot them in the face. In fact I bet 100 times more people get hurt by getting inspired by their stuff, than get better at riding. Yes every now and then some kid will show up at Rampage telling a touching story how Jordie inspired him to ride and push the boundaries of the sport, but one has to understand he is one of thousands who wasted their dreams, bones and joints on trying to be like Jordie. Again I bet he is a great lad, his artform, well who am I to judge. Anyways people eating shit do not promote reckless behavior, nobody wants be the guy eating shit. Everyone wants to be Jordie who is 10k times more reckless than folks crashing off a 2m jump. @rellinger:
@PinkyScar: That styrofoam hat saved my life when I was hit by a car years ago. It has saved me from countless head injuries over the past 25+ years I've been riding. Are you unaware of how helmets actually work?
@WAKIdesigns: Well i can't disagree with you on the daughter point. As a father myself I'll hold that opinion of any boy who comes a callin' to be fair.
Beyond your calculation of risk vs reward sure, mine too, but maybe not for him. He's a talented professional athlete. These type of people hace the abilily to visualize what may seem impossible to mere mortals like us and mame it reality. He's still doing it in as safe a way as possible ie: wearing a helmet and propper gear (although I'll never get on the no glove bandwagon). But I digress, that says nothing for or against my point of not glorifying people riding without helmets. Maybe I'm just a grumpy old fart and I'm starting to sound like a broken record of my mom saying put your helmet on. But it's something I feel strongly about and i think PB has a responsibility to represent better then they do. Ok enough of my grumpy ranting. I just made a rye and ginger and damit I'm gonna enjoy it while chatting bikes.
Did everone else see how freakin' close Jordie's front tire came to coming off on that tree roll in? Oh my effin' G!
@rellinger:"Why-no-helmet?" shamers are full of "My Helmet Saved Me" anecdotes, maybe ask yourself why you are countlessly crashing/getting hit by drivers in 3000lb vehicles, and read about why bicycle helmets are nowhere near a panacea of safety for your brain, or the cumulative effects of hits to the ol' noggin.
That guy who overshoot a dirt jump doing some spins was rather painfull. But again guys with no clue are the most entertaining. From the moment you see them approach you know they are bound to fail. Absolute stiffness, no bodywork whatsoever. Why?
1:30 is truly cringeworthy. Maybe it's just that you can't see him but he doesn't really seem to move. Otherwise it looks like this week was helmetless dumbass week.
I really enjoy the comments about how everyone in the videos is a totally unskilled idiot of a rider.
Many are probably fairly unskilled riders, buts lets face it, normally when you crash
you are riding like an unskilled idiot, not when you have everything dialed.
My vote for most entertaining is 2:05. The one that raises the most questions is 2:10 - is that the intended result? Was the the catcher completing the move?
"encouraging others to damage themselves in the same way". This basically what we all do when we tell friends and family how much fun mtb is, and to come with us for a spin sometime!
These are magnificent. I have 2 favorites: 1 - the vids where the well meaning videographer tells the rider "you're not going to make it". 2 - The vids with no helmets
Hey pinkbike, can you stop posting these fail videos? I imagine many of these people have had life changing injuries. Concussions, spinals, complex fractures etc. By posting these fail videos you are promoting this behaviour of unnecessary risk taking of people without proper experience and training. I’m not saying don’t post awesome clips of gnarly stuff (like Jordy Lunn), but stop posting videos of people damaging themselves because they were unprepared for what they were doing. You are glorifying this behaviour through these posts and potentially encouraging others to damage themselves in the same way.
Are they glorifying it or are they helping to put some perspective in? It's easy to think that jumps and drops are easy when you watch the pro's effortlessly send huge gaps. Showing what happens when you (clearly) don't know what you're doing is probably more helpful than harmful.
Yeah, save the jumps for the pros, keep cameras in the hands of responsible adults, and if it wouldn't make America's Funniest Home videos, it shouldn't be seen on PB.
James, you do realize PB doesn't go out and shoot these vids - they're already out there for the world to see. I would think the typical PBer armchair cyclist is better equipped at knowing how to ride and with a helmet.
Keep ‘em comin’.
Hence... no point in analyzing these, just enjoy.
Experience yields proper adjustment...
That said, I see no hope for many of these people.
You can definitely adjust how explosively you press into a lip based on its speed steepness/shape to get a better result. Common cause of bucking is entering the lip with over extended arms aka no ability to pump the front end. Makes the front wheel take a much lower arc than the rear @nvranka:
Beyond your calculation of risk vs reward sure, mine too, but maybe not for him. He's a talented professional athlete. These type of people hace the abilily to visualize what may seem impossible to mere mortals like us and mame it reality. He's still doing it in as safe a way as possible ie: wearing a helmet and propper gear (although I'll never get on the no glove bandwagon). But I digress, that says nothing for or against my point of not glorifying people riding without helmets. Maybe I'm just a grumpy old fart and I'm starting to sound like a broken record of my mom saying put your helmet on. But it's something I feel strongly about and i think PB has a responsibility to represent better then they do. Ok enough of my grumpy ranting. I just made a rye and ginger and damit I'm gonna enjoy it while chatting bikes.
Did everone else see how freakin' close Jordie's front tire came to coming off on that tree roll in? Oh my effin' G!
This basically what we all do when we tell friends and family how much fun mtb is, and to come with us for a spin sometime!
full video here: www.pinkbike.com/video/317258
It does make me wonder how I look in the air. Probably not that great
Love crash at 2:10...