Look Releases Two New 'Made In France' Flat Pedals

 It looks like the aluminum pedals have it too... why do companies keep making convex pedals?!

 Axle bump? more like company slump

 @dglobulator: to each their own but OneUp composite pedals appear to have a raised middle section from all the pics I'm seeing... and that would make them a convex pedal which is unusable for me. I'd gladly take a 5mm increase in leading edge thickness to get a truly concave pedal which is why I use the Nukeproof Horizon flats.

 @millsr4: they most definitely have the hump.

 @dglobulator: They definitely do.

 @dglobulator: Crank Brothers composite pedals are literally impossible to ride with confidence with that massive hump.

 @dglobulator: I thought I was the only one. I just quietly gave my composite stamps away and didn't say anything about not liking them out of fear I would be attacked for disliking one of the most popular flat pedals out there.

 @millsr4: If you look closer they seem to be flat, the pins are on the same level as the axle bulge.

 @IMeasureStuff: the key is vans…

 @Sethsg: the pins sink into your shoes but the platform doesn't... they most definitely will feel convex under foot.

 @millsr4: I hate the bumps on pedals too, but the OneUp composites are actually really nice, I have them on my 2nd bike which is a hardtail, and rarely lose footing.

 @dglobulator: the One Up composites arent a patch on the metal.
The shape is nowhere near as good and they do have a convex 'ridge' down axle.
I love the metal ones but composites I couldn't use.

HT do good composite which is really cheap PA.. something
And the new DMR composite is pretty good but thick.

 @millsr4: I tell you why, because customers want thin pedals, so they make them as thin as they can no matter what. Because you know, those few mm make so much difference, literally trails are made so that a few millimetres makes you strike all the rocks, those builders are malicious bastards. Sag, bb drop and crank lenght are not important, only pedal thickness.

 @lkubica: Do people actually care about pedal thickness, or are we being sold the idea that thinner pedals are better? Do manufacturers (of anything) respond to demand, rather than the other way around? I'm not so sure.

 @millsr4: Convex pedals conform to the contour of your foot. I notice it most while climbing and I like the feel. I use relatively stiff and sticky Northwaves and my feet only really come off if I pick them up.

 @J26z: your own personal experience and opinion is wrong. Try again

 Wow someone finally said it

 Both models (aluminium and composite) have a convex shape and there is no « bump » in the middle. Source: www.vojomag.com/look-trail-roc-fusion-au-coeur-du-developpement-de-pedales-made-in-france

 @dglobulator: one ups definitely have it, i just sold a pair because of it. Deity deftraps dont though. Deity is the only pedal ive found that actually has concave pedals other than odyssey grandstand v2

 @dglobulator: completely agree, I felt so unstable on the stamps and i LOVE my one ups

 @browner: Prove it with an equation

 @J26z: equations are just number and symbol opinions

 @Bennettswerve: a mixed bag of people happy and not happy with a ridge on the composite One Ups? I wonder if foot size and shoe choice are a factor. I'm a size 6 and on Fivetens and I don't feel one.

 @dglobulator: when the pedals have an axle bump the pins don't bite the soles of stiff shoes. Regular freeriders are ok, but I have to move my foot quite a bit forward so the hump is near my arch, freerider pros won't stick to pedals like that at all. Deity deftraps on the other hand I can place my foot wherever I'm comfortable in relation to the axle. One ups have been my least favorite composites next to raceface chesters. Im a 13, I think shoe selection has more to do with it than shoe size.

 @RonSauce: I'm regular freeriders and Freerider pro and luckily I don't feel it. A size 6 shoe might flex a bit less than a whopping size 13;-) Marmite pedals or what?

 @dglobulator: that sounds like an opinion that originated from inner surface of a sphere

 @browner: that sounds like an opinion that originated from inner surface of a sphere
@dglobulator: sorry this comment was meant for Browner

 @J26z: Pedals should be concave, not convex. You should be using the ball of your foot to stand on them. If you want your pedal to conform to the arch of your foot (as a convex pedal would) then you're standing in the wrong place on your foot.
Asking for this to be proved with an equation is a bit like asking for someone to prove that snow is cold with an equation. I'm sure it's possible, but it's much easier just to hold some in your hand.

 @J26z: Prove what with an equation? Be specific. If you're asking him to prove that you're wrong, the burden of proof is on you to show that you're right. Hitchens' Razor.

 @rbeach: I'm pretty sure J26z and myself are both taking the piss

 @browner: Yes, and each of the 3 arches of the foot (yes there's 3) deserves atleast 1 equation, 1 opinion, and 1 symbol to determine if
flat pedal manufacturing should have an organization regulating that all flat pedals to either be concave, convex, flat or some combination of the mix.

 @browner: Whereas I of course am being completely serious. *rolleyes*

 I mean I guess you could...

 Julian Molina disagrees.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=UxR5kU8y9bo

 @andrewbmxmtb: That's absolutely wild. So much respect for that dude, insane

 LOOK was the bomb for ski bindings. Maybe its “big sock” mentality bleeding over into Left pedal/right pedal domain to continue that pedigree?

 Like there isn't already enough out there

 Hey that's my bit! lol For real how does this industry support 8 trillion flat pedals that are all basically the same?

 i didnt realize they made anything in France other than wine and cheese.

 @meathooker: White flags also

 @meathooker Tanks with 1 forward and 5 reverse gears.

 Lea Seydoux was made in France, henceforth, it's my favourite place.

 @nskerb: Lol. some of the best Anglophile/Francophile humor is in the animated Dreamworks movie “Flushed Away.” The “cross the channel” humor hilarious.

 @10DollarHelmet10DollarHead: As a brit living in America, I do love to take a jab at the French, but in all honesty, there is no denying they are pretty dam good at a lot of things and do have a beautiful country to be proud of. With all that said, its fun to throw some salvos their way. :-)

 @noplacelikeloam: that was Italy

 @meathooker: not a Francophile by any stretch but come on - Renault, Peugeot, Michelin, Airbus, Dior, L'Oreal, Hermes, Vinci, Total ... just for a range

 @BentonFraser: f*ckn fast trains. 1/2 concord so f*ckn fast planes. f*ckn fast Alpine cars. More?

 These are French pedals man, they smoke hand-rolled cigarettes and speak like they are attempting to remove phlegm from the back of their throat

 @meathooker: they make some insanely fast downhill racers.

 Well it matters to people living in France, or close to its border, and want to buy as local as possible, even if there are already offerings from GB or Germany. I agree the flat pedal market looks saturated tho.

 Made in France matters for french people just as made in the USA matters for americans

 @noplacelikeloam: I wish we were a bit less proud of our castles and cathedrals and all the old cultural stuff (the wine and cheese I'm ok ) and put a bit more proud in creating new things.
By that I mean it's pretty tough to grow and succeed as an industry. UK and Germany have a lot of small companies that strive (particularly in the bike industry), France ? Barely any.
I think Germany and Swiss even have some sort of "inner circle" where a company has an advantage in the bank or something if they work with other inland companies, thus creating a strong network of small industrial business that consolidate each other.
Here in France when someone is successful enough he quickly sells his business to a big group that will ruin it.
Maybe it's related to the way France is centralized in Paris, I think it creates a lot of harm for the whole country. It dates back to Napoleon I think, who did this cuz' it was the only way to kind of manage the country (we lost a lot of our local folklore as well, except in border regions like Alsace, Britanny, Pays Basque), but now it's really hurting. It's just Paris, Paris, Paris, and the rest is in the shadow.
In Germany I think the organization as landers is like an intermediate level, where a small business can strive at the lander level before eventually going country wide.

 Just take a look at it

 Looking, don't see it.

 sometimes i sit back and say "will you look at that"

 @oldschool43: you gotta look at it this way, okay, you just gotta look at it that's all you can do anymore

 @oldschool43: “No No you don’t understand, this pedal goes up to 11”
Nigel Tufnel, Guitarist Spinal Tap

 @10DollarHelmet10DollarHead: Oh jeez, hope you didn't jinx me. I was a drummer...

 No cap. MTB flat pedals are all starting to look so similar that it's hard to tell them apart from each other.

 Don't want to show how effectively short the central pins are next to the bump.

 PB seems committed to never giving you the view you want on pedals, FS bikes, etc. That Unno that was just released had 5 drive side pics and not a single one of the non-drive side so there's no way to try to understand how the suspension system may work. Don't know who would buy flat pedals without looking at the side view, which makes this article kinda useless.

 I wear an 11 but here are a few options:
* Biggest platform on the market belongs to the Pedaling Innovations "Catalyst Pedal"
* I like the e*Thirteen pedals quite a bit. (large area, long pins, concave shape, good price)
* Diety Deftraps are pretty awesome too.
*Or if you have too much money and need to get rid of some, go with the Diety T-Mac

 I use issi stomp XL. It’s a machined aluminum pedal, not concave, adjustable pins, and rebuildable spindles. The are maybe a little thicker than OneUp’s or Spank pedals. I am my second spindle kit which only set me back 56$ on a 3 year old platform

 Check out the Crank Brothers Stamps, I prefer the Stamp 2 and 3 (size large) because the pedal is spaced from the crank a bit more than the other stamp models, more room for big feet. And I think you can find the stamp 2’s for like $70-75. Love mine.

 Chromag Dagga. Keep in mind that the "usable foot platform area" is ca. 5mm shorter than the measurement stated - that's the total platform measurement. It's got a slight diamond shape, not a square one. They have endless grip, I prefer them over the Stamp 7s and Burgtec Penthouse MK5.

 Biggest platform’s for pedals -

Pedaling Innovations - 13,585 mm^2
Chrommag Dagga - 13,800 mm2
Tectonic Altar - 13,200 mm2
Sensus Crue - 12,285 mm2
Stamp 7 - 12,654 mm2
One up Composite - 11,970 mm2
Raceface Aeffect - 11,880 mm2
Yoshimura - 11,770 mm2
Diety TMAC - 11,550 mm2

Pedaling Innovations is longest at 143 x 95 mm.
Chromag Dagga is widest at 120 x 115 mm.
Yes, I have two much time on my hands

 Guess chromag should be 115x115 = 13,225 mm2 based on comment above.

 @fftfk: this^ awesome thx!