Pinkbike Poll: What's the Duration of Your Average Weekend Ride?

Mar 29, 2024
by Jessie-May Morgan  
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It's clear to me that those riding eMTBs are getting heaps more laps in at the local on a Saturday morning than those who are pedaling up under their own steam. I fall into the latter category, and so the vast majority of the riders passing me are on eMTBs. That temporarily puts me under the illusion that there are more people riding eMTBs than regular bikes. Then, I remember that my perception is getting skewed by differences in pace, and thus the difference in frequency of sightings.

While it's something of a no-brainer that eMTBs allow one to cover more distance in a given time, I wonder how that impacts how long riders stay out on the trails. Of course, battery capacity is likely to be one of the biggest factors here, but a lot of eMTB riders have the option of running a range extender, and many purchase a second battery.

So, I'm splitting this one into those who ride mountain bikes, and those who ride eMTBs. Does having a motor influence how long, in number of hours, your rides are? And, if you're a recent eMTB convert, is the duration of your regular weekend ride shorter, the same, or longer than it was when you were riding a regular mountain bike? Let us know in the comments. If you have a regular mountain bike and an eMTB, please answer both.


Mountain Bikers: How many hours do you ride on your average weekend ride?




eMTBers: How many hours do you ride on your average weekend ride?





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415 Comments
  • 586 75
 Man PB is pushing the ebike shit harder than a Jehovah's Witness at my front door.
  • 424 56
 Jehovah's Witnesses are riding ebikes now?
  • 108 5
 @mikekazimer: they save their legs between houses so they can climb those longer staircases with power for the Lawd.
  • 33 7
 @mikekazimer: Not the Amish ones!
  • 6 6
 @mikekazimer: Hahahahaha!
  • 15 0
 If they remade the Office Space printer scene with Levy, Kaz, and Henry on the bat, then we'd be on to something
  • 25 1
 @mikekazimer: All they need is 144,000 eBike converts
  • 40 46
flag rojo-1 (Mar 29, 2024 at 12:48) (Below Threshold)
 Check out the previous poll on eBikes: 48% of pinkers want one, so the coverage isn't going anywhere.
  • 76 6
 Have you thought about repenting your sins and accepting our lord saviour e-sus into your life?
  • 9 1
 About 6 minutes. Ooohhhh, that other kind. Yeah, hour and a half?
  • 5 3
 You may win some battles, but the war is decided.
  • 46 36
 Still don't get ebike pushback by PBers that take chairlifts and shuttle. I don't even own an ebike, yet.
  • 14 7
 Just slam the door on eBikes (and Jehovah’s Witnesses) like you’re Craig and it’s Friday:
youtu.be/6WZMJX_MGvA?si=mPcaQRvZCjNAamVu
  • 43 4
 @mikekazimer: I'm not sure, but battery certainly crosses my mind whenever they knock on the door.
  • 15 0
 @mikekazimer: They’re only riding eBikes until the return of 26” hardtails.
  • 4 1
 @WRCDH: then send Deebo round.

It’s MY Ebike!
  • 3 0
 @Mfro: LOL! That just made my Friday =)
  • 6 0
 @mikekazimer: idk but I know they like to ride Kingdom Hall Trails.
  • 4 1
 @Dogl0rd: they’d definitely need a jump to conclusions mat.
  • 4 0
 @TucsonDon: You hear about the fracture in the Amish community and the new Emish eBiking splinter sect?

But traditional horse-drawn Amish mountain biking is pretty rad too...it makes the uphills on a DH bike almost as fast as the downhills.
  • 5 1
 @commental: Underrated comment.
  • 14 10
 @watchmen: Jesus hates ebikes
  • 12 28
flag HeatedRotor FL (Mar 29, 2024 at 14:43) (Below Threshold)
 You seem awfully worried The Ebike train is going to run over you... guess what... you wont derail it.
  • 1 4
 @mikekazimer: Ya, they got the idea from LDS Elders sending it in their neighborhoods...
  • 12 0
 @Dogl0rd: The “pieces of flair” scene, but the manager is Outside CEO, Brian Park is Jennifer Aniston, and instead of flair it’s e-bike articles.
  • 8 8
 @rojo-1: 48% of people who clicked on an article about e bikes and paid enough attention to scroll all the way to the bottom are interested in e bikes.

FIFY
  • 2 0
 @Dogl0rd: ....but instead of a printer it would be an
E bike....
  • 5 1
 @WRCDH: Just wait for Amish E horses.....
  • 5 2
 Ya if only they pushed trail work more...if you built it or made it better, ride whatever you want. That's actually earning your turns. End of the day it's just riding bikes.
  • 14 19
flag HeatedRotor FL (Mar 29, 2024 at 16:00) (Below Threshold)
 @feldybikes: its funny isnt it, Hate on them so much they spend time to tell everyone... youd almost think it was jealousy.
  • 7 2
 @TucsonDon: Oddly enough, the Amish allow (and really love) ebikes.https://electrek.co/2023/03/12/believe-it-or-not-the-amish-are-loving-electric-bikes/
  • 7 1
 @feldybikes: Fair. Still a lot of people the impression I get is that all bikers click ebike articles so they can rant about them despite the existence of the filter. If they didn't then there wouldn't be all the hate...
  • 5 3
 @feldybikes: Why do you think those 52% who aren't interested in eBikes clicked and read an article about them? Interested in your viewpoint since you read it...
  • 10 9
 @HeatedRotor: Outside of injuries/disabilities- what are we jealous of? Being weak or a poser?
  • 5 8
 @flexorcist: why are so angry. It's going to be ok
  • 6 7
 @psullivan65: no anger here. the truth just hurts. Who am I even offending? Some rich white kids? Grow up the motto for E-bikes: spend more money and set yourself back
  • 2 1
 @mikekazimer: there is a Mormon dude that likes "extreme" sports. He even rips it up in the nice clothes. They like to call themselves elders, even though most missionaries are just out of high school.
  • 4 6
 I vote this Thread Of The Year with Comments Of The Year Awards to: @chriskneeland, @mikekazimer
  • 3 3
 @feldybikes: Nah.. just came down to heckle and throw rocks at the train but the head commenter stole the show!
  • 4 7
 @flexorcist: ok well you sound like just another gatekeeping db
  • 8 0
 @rickybobby19: Funny! I actually asked them a serious question last time they came to my door.
If only 144,000 go heaven then, Why are you out here recruiting your competition?
  • 4 2
 Have your legs been healed! Have your legs been saved! Praise the e-bike! Our legs saviour!
  • 5 0
 My mate knocked on someone's door and started by saying "don't worry I'm not a JW!" They responded with a raised eyebrow "well we are..."
  • 1 0
 @WRCDH: that's very clever lol
  • 2 0
 @Three6ty: that's a brilliant question lol
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: ah, you made my day!
  • 2 1
 @mikekazimer: I see the battery acid has deprived you of sarcasm.
  • 2 1
 @shredddr: 6 minutes? Show off
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: Don't give them any ideas
  • 1 4
 Looks like there are plenty of E-bike curious, over 6000. Soon they will ban children's books that reference E-bikes
  • 1 0
 @Yaan: children only look at iPads so feel free to write some ebike books
  • 1 1
 @mikekazimer: yes....they can cover more front doors this way. they aren't amish! lol
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: No he’s right. The scene in breaking bad where Jessie is just trying to smoke meth in peace when he’s harassed by Jehovahs witnesses on bikes does perfectly sun up how it feels to scroll pinkbike these days.

youtu.be/7kmk6ikfhyg?si=s_RRs_r5VIPVxk1u
  • 9 5
 Yep, the delusion that you are bicycling while using an engine continues. Disgraceful.
  • 3 6
 @tacklingdummy: same fight to me. It is a shame Emtb will allow these guys to ride elsewhere. Please remember emtb is crap, better stay concentrated in lift-chaired stations where mountain is already destroyed, huum, awesome..
  • 9 4
 @shredddr: there is no battle. People have been riding motorized-bicycles for a century and a half. What is ridiculous is thinking that they are bicycling!
  • 5 3
 @tacklingdummy: the fact you have to write ebike and not bike ends the case.
  • 4 9
flag tacklingdummy (Mar 30, 2024 at 10:26) (Below Threshold)
 @stunnanumma1: It is fine you or anybody doesn't like them, I just think it is funny how people who don't like ebikes somehow justify that taking chairlifts and shuttling is different. Lol.

I just think the complete dislike of ebikes is an extremely narrow view of things and not looking at the bigger picture.If you ever experience any chronic leg injuries or trauma leg injuries that prevent you from mtb-ing, you will see the value of an ebike for rehabilitation and recovery.
  • 1 3
 @dododuzzi: but lots of smiles
  • 8 2
 @tacklingdummy: chairlifts are pre-existing mass transit infrastructure
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer:

Amish ride e-bikes now

thisebikelife.com/e-bikes-overtake-buggies-for-some-amis
  • 4 1
 @tacklingdummy: So People with ebikes dont use chairlifts or do shuttle days? If you spend just a single day in on of the Bikeparks in the Alps or in Finale Ligure with a shuttle you will see lots of People on ebike taking chairlifts and using shuttles.
  • 5 4
 @RockCrawler: I never said that. Like I said above, I just think it is funny that people who don't like ebikes somehow justify that chairlifts and shuttling is different. That's it.
  • 2 4
 @tacklingdummy: shuttling is carpooling and doesn't require additional manufacturing or batteries. Just requires smelling people's B.O. and releases of methane and having at least one friend
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: Yah amd they are also offering "Automobile Extended Warranties"
  • 4 3
 @Dogl0rd: But chairlifts and shuttling is assistance to avoid climbing which is the main argument PBers have against ebikes. To be fair, I'm not against chairlifts, shuttling, or ebikes. I don't even own an ebike, yet. I really like to climb and the sufferfest. However, I know I will buy an ebike in the future when I need one.
  • 3 2
 @Dogl0rd: we need to stop trying to pretend that this has anything to do with the environment. Going up and down the same hill is pointless and bad for the environment. Get over it!
  • 6 2
 @rojo-1: Really? You think that the environmental impact of Lithium batteries and electric engines is the same of not using any?
  • 4 7
 @dododuzzi: one day, likely with very little notice, you wake up and realize that if you’re ever going to ride trail again on 2 wheels, it will have to be on an ebike.
  • 3 0
 Dude who cares.
  • 6 1
 @dododuzzi: I think they are saying that we participate in a completely pointless activity and the environmental impact is just a matter of degrees. The battery is not really the biggest factor. If you ride a metal bike then pretty much everything is mined and if you drive to the trails everything else is irrelevant. I think some people have decided they don't like ebikes and jumping on the environmental bandwagon is an easy justification.
  • 1 0
 You know when editors reply they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
  • 1 0
 on g man fr
  • 3 3
 Well whether people like it or not, emtb's are pretty standard these days. At this point, those who complain are like the old man shaking his fast at the air. In the end, ride or don't ride one. Do what is most for you and don't worry about what others ride.
  • 4 0
 @CYCOlogist818: trying to control fist shakers is fist shaking
  • 2 0
 @Dogl0rd: Indeed.
  • 1 0
 @bikehoarder23: They can ride em, but ask me to plug them into charge.
  • 1 0
 @TucsonDon: www.cyclingweekly.com/news/a-modern-era-e-bikes-are-replacing-horse-and-buggy-for-some-amish-communities
  • 1 1
 @dododuzzi: Lithium batteries are recycled with high efficiency because the metals are precious, and electricity is cleaner than food (humans) or trucks (diesel). It's really not a simple argument, but one thing for sure is that there are more boring ways to stay fit and save the environment if you prefer to go down that route...
  • 2 1
 @rojo-1: You are dreaming about recycling with high efficieny. But the point is that bicycles are part of the solution. Motored-bicycles are part of the problem.
  • 2 2
 @dododuzzi: While in certain applications bicycles can help the environment, people dicking around on push bikes in the woods isn't solving anything.
  • 2 2
 @tacklingdummy: Nobody has ever screamed at a person on a chairlift, shuttle, or motorcycle, "CHEATER!!!!" But somehow pedaling a class 1 emtb using a 250w motor which is 1/6th of a horsepower is utter blasphemy and should be verbally abused.
  • 1 1
 @TahoeEbikes: I agree. It is ridiculous how it is spun. Tribalism is real. Lol.
  • 243 106
 Answered the first one. Don't give a shit about the second because it's not a bike ride
  • 19 5
 Much lower percentage of ebikers interested in the MTBer poll than vice versa. Not sure what that tells us…
  • 55 68
flag tacklingdummy (Mar 29, 2024 at 13:30) (Below Threshold)
 Do you take chairlifts and shuttle? Perhaps, forget the chairlift at the bike park and climb instead.
  • 23 10
 @jostaudt: probably out riding.
  • 14 9
 It is. But okay. Life’s got lots of variance and choices. Just because it’s different doesn’t mean you have to hate it.
  • 14 7
 @tacklingdummy: if I turn the bike off and coast down a hill, is it then a bike ride?
  • 23 1
 @jostaudt: maybe that alot of ebikers also have mtbs so can answer in both polls.
  • 17 32
flag tacklingdummy (Mar 29, 2024 at 14:25) (Below Threshold)
 @joecrosby: Not sure what you mean. I'm pro-ebikes. I just think it is funny that riders who don't like ebikes think that riding chairlifts and shuttling is somehow different than ebikes.
  • 28 15
 @tacklingdummy: It is a bit different. Shuttling and chairlifts are typically limited to a certain area whereas an Ebike can (and do, despite trail regulations) go wherever.
  • 26 10
 @BonoVox101: the freedom of choice you allude to means one is also free to choose to hate mopeds.
  • 9 9
 @mmarkey21: Not always. Some bike parks allow climbing to the top. Where is there a shuttling track that you cannot climb? Anywhere a car can go a bike can go.
  • 9 11
 Stupid fucking comment
  • 28 23
 Motorcycles with pretend pedals Pretend biking
  • 10 0
 I am somewhat curious how long the average dirt bike ride is
  • 12 20
flag psullivan65 FL (Mar 29, 2024 at 15:52) (Below Threshold)
 @in2falling: do you know emtb's need to be pedaled to work?
  • 7 0
 @jostaudt: Surprising low number of EMTBers responded. Also a lot of the EMTBers have both and therefore answered both polls obviously
  • 5 8
 If it’s not a bike ride what is it
  • 8 15
flag thatguyzack (Mar 29, 2024 at 18:17) (Below Threshold)
 Says someone who has never ridden an ebike.
  • 9 9
 @in2falling: you want to show me on the doll where the bad man touched you?
  • 6 3
 @kevinturner12: 100% mate. I own both and ride both roughly the same amount of time, just the distance varies.
  • 2 2
 @tacklingdummy: DyFi doesn't let you climb on an eBike even though it would be faster then the land rovers (as good as they are, no match for Bosch)
  • 11 7
 @psullivan65: my moto requires me to twist a throttle too. Some of these require so little input on the pedals from the rider it’s basically just a foot actuated throttle.
  • 6 10
flag rojo-1 (Mar 29, 2024 at 20:02) (Below Threshold)
 @jostaudt: eBikers are like Brexit voters. Team remain are very vocal in telling them that they are stupid, so they keep quiet then on the day to everyone's surprise they go out and buy an eBike.
  • 4 1
 @topherdagopher: Not wrong mate, Bosch race mode is so powerful. I think that this short crank trend is partially being fueled by the use of pedals as some sort of weird throttle actuation. It's still fun though (just as motorbikes are fun).
  • 9 5
 @tacklingdummy: idk why it tagged you, I meant to just reply to the original comment here lol.

I completely agree- if your goal is to ride the fun downhill part, what’s it matter how you get to the top? Yeah I’d much rather have a dh bike and shuttle or chairlift instead of an ebike. But I don’t live close to a chairlift, and I usually ride alone. So… the ebike does exactly what I need. I get to the top, and I coast down. That’s where I don’t understand the original comment of “not a bike ride”. It is, without a doubt, a bike ride. I am riding a bike.
  • 4 4
 @jostaudt: I think the high entry price for an e-bike is a factor.
  • 8 4
 @topherdagopher: " foot actuated throttle" Bingo
  • 4 3
 @tacklingdummy: I’m not saying there aren’t shuttle rides that you cannot climb. I’m saying there are many trail systems that aren’t able to be shuttled, so saying that an ebike (which can access these trail systems) are no different than a bike park or shuttle route isn’t necessarily correct.

Either way, I agree they’re not going anywhere and we should plan for them on the trails as much as I don’t like it.

My main concern is effectively being passed nonstop by ebikes on climbs, interrupting my climbing/experience. The more e-bikes proliferate, the more times I’m going to be expected to let them pass on my ride. So either keeping them off some trails or building climbing trails that are wide enough to allow them to pass without me having to pull to the side is an important design consideration.
  • 1 3
 @tacklingdummy: every been to a bike park? Climbing is not an option.
  • 5 3
 @mmarkey21: But at least on an e-bike you are actually on your bike during the whole ride. And you are free to explore and not stuck doing the same laps again and again. Don't own an E and don't plan to, but between shuttling/chairlift and riding an assisted bike I consider the latter more "honest" and versatile. But the reason I'm into mtb is because it allows me to push my limits (both skill and endurance) while having fun. No need for any kind of assistance for that.
  • 7 3
 @psullivan65: Watched a dude the other day literally stop pedaling and coast up a rock pile, to start pedaling on the other side.

After learning that trans bikes have a setting that will allow the motor to keep spinning after you stop pedaling just confirms that they are low powered dirt bikes.
  • 2 2
 @JSTootell: I haven't seen one of those. But really no cares
  • 3 0
 @justwan-naride: Yea, we have a bike park in VT that e-bikes can pedal up, basically the fire/access road. But you have to buy a pass like the uplift folks.
  • 10 0
 Let's pave it all. Everyone should be able to go anywhere without feeling anything. Let's get some escalators to the top of Everest!
  • 2 3
 @iduckett: I mean this is the dream right. Bikes that self shuttle so that your money is going into better trails rather than uplift vehicles...
  • 4 1
 @JSTootell: what kind of bike was it? I’ve never heard of that. I think Bosch has a mode where you can get like 0.5 seconds of delay from when you stop pedaling to when the motor stops, but i cant imagine what you saw was a Bosch based on your description.
  • 4 4
 @iduckett: But do you see any riders pedaling up analog bikes? If not, the ebikers are not the lazy ones at those kind of bike parks. Lol.
  • 5 1
 @rojo-1: this is the best metaphor in the thread, brexit voters like e-bike owners have been sold a lie yet they lap it up and evangelise about it as a way of blinkering themselves from the truth
  • 2 2
 @Peskycoots: tell us the truth Pesky. You're obviously the authority on it.
  • 3 1
 @tacklingdummy: Maybe because with a bike I spend 250 days a year peadaling and maybe do 20 days of Uplift services? Where as with an ebike i shuttle my self everday i take it for a spin.
  • 1 0
 @kevinturner12: That makes sense
  • 4 0
 @psullivan65: brexit = sovereignty in the same way ebike = cycling
  • 2 2
 @Peskycoots: wtf are you talking about. Ebikes and brexit. Get a life
  • 1 1
 @psullivan65: struggling to follow the thread?
  • 3 4
 @mmarkey21: roads and chairlifts have unfathomablely more impact on the environment and the aesthetic of the mountains than e-bikes ever will. These things are not benign.
  • 1 0
 @Peskycoots: no I just think comparing a hobby to brexit is ridiculous
  • 1 1
 @psullivan65: so why are you telling me? If you’re following the thread you’ll know that I was lightly mocking a brexit bellend
  • 3 1
 @kevinturner12: Yeah I think people tend to forget,there are those who ride both.
  • 3 1
 haha You're gonna be REALLY disappointed in the future. Also, let's check back in a few years and see what you're riding. I've ridden with R-Dog/Ryan Howard and Cam McCaul around Santa Cruz on their ebikes. Are you telling me those weren't real rides?!
  • 124 19
 I’m 54 and still riding a mountain bike and not a bicycle with a motor. And no doubt, a bicycle with a motor would make it much easier, I honestly just can’t stand the sound of them. No offense to those that ride them, I just don’t like the noise in the forest. And this is from somebody that rides a KTM yet obviously in places where there are other motors.
For me, I like the separation of non-motor and motor.
  • 25 30
flag rrolly (Mar 29, 2024 at 13:17) (Below Threshold)
 The new Trek Fuel EXe is dead quiet. I hate noise while riding, and riding with a buddy who has one has been zero issue for me (other than being far more exhausted than him on the climbs).
  • 30 7
 Where I live it's as if everyone has an EBike or EMTB, I was reluctant for so long, I'm 65 and don't think I can ride the analog bike nearly as often or as long as I do the EMTB, my knee's are shot and with the EMTB I can climb without worrying about suffering later.
  • 18 3
 @OldFatBassTerd: Hopefully the panel agree with your situation and stamp your papers.
  • 4 0
 @johnnygolucky: just watched an embn vid regarding the new pinion mgb and it sounds like the dying sewing machine my ma had many moons ago. horribly loud.
i've got the fuel exe and so long as your cadence is below 95 ish it's dead quiet.
  • 8 1
 I thought I was getting old at my 42 y/o having been pro.. upset with 16+ kg enduros and wondering for ebikes... Then bought carbon xc shoes for the road bike gave it a try on the MTB and been the same again! 50km rides 2000m attitude!... Really we are losing so much of our engine pedaling with dh shoes... is desperating now I see...
  • 7 12
flag BermJunky (Mar 29, 2024 at 14:04) (Below Threshold)
 Wow how busy are your trails that ebike motor noise is an issue?
  • 3 2
 @BermJunky:
N+1
  • 12 4
 But buys the loudest rear hub, cause its cool, ha ha
  • 3 7
flag jtsimaras (Mar 29, 2024 at 20:37) (Below Threshold)
 Also, the EMF radiating ones nut sack or lady parts riding an eBike Smile
  • 10 1
 Don't you find that the music they're blasting from the bluetooth speaker hanging from the bars covers up the sound of the motor though?
  • 3 1
 @jtsimaras: you can’t be serious
  • 68 0
 Remember if rides last longer than 4 hours, you should see a doctor
  • 24 0
 Doc said just to tip my nose down and keep going
  • 6 9
 Wtf?
  • 19 0
 @Dagabba: You may not have a lot of Viagra commercials on TV in the UK. In the US it seems like every other advertisement is for pharmaceuticals and there must be some regulation that requires them to list a couple of side effects. The Viagra commercials used to add the warning "Seek immediate medical help if you experience an erect**n lasting more than 4 hours."
  • 14 0
 @jonemyers: hahaha, thank you, now I understand! Yeah, no pharma adverts here.
  • 2 9
flag JSTootell (Mar 30, 2024 at 10:45) (Below Threshold)
 Followed my girlfriend around on an event that lasted 8 hours. I guess she is okay with me lasting longer than 4 hours.
  • 63 2
 Uh, not a whole lot of eMTB'ers doing 6+ hours unless they're stashing batteries in the bushes.

Love me a good whole-day epic on the bike.
  • 13 33
flag onemanarmy FL (Mar 29, 2024 at 12:50) (Below Threshold)
 I can do 4 plus EASY and that's on a 500 battery. With a 7 it's not that hard to do 5-6 hour ride. I've also done 2- 4 hour rides in a day 3 days in a row. You can do a lot when you're not smashing boost or turbo the entire ride.
  • 25 6
 @onemanarmy: I've passed guys on eco going uphill on my mountain bike. Seems like a lot of e-guys aren't going much faster than they could on a mountain bike when they're trying to milk a battery for a 4 hour ride pushing a 50lb eBike.
  • 18 3
 It was very clever to ask "average" ride rather than "biggest" ride. I routinely do 6 hour rides, just not enough per season to make them my average. This poll normalizes e-bike batteries as long enough to last for an "average" ride, and obscures that fact those big, 6+ hour epics are for many of us treasured moments we aspire to
  • 4 0
 @rickybobby19: I ride with a friend who has a focus jam ebike and he has to ride eco with the battery extender or the batteries on 0 by the last climb on 5 to 6 hour day.
  • 6 5
 I can do all day on my eeb with a 750wh battery, and cover over 50 hilly miles with a bit of power still in the tank at the end. As mentioned, just need to use full power sparingly.
  • 2 2
 @rickybobby19: lol! I'm probably one of those guys. But usually, I'll squeeze 6K ft of vertical climbing on my 500 wH battery (yep, I'm pretty exhausted but no way I can do that on my regular bike... which I ride too).
  • 2 1
 @rickybobby19: Just curious... how do you know those guys that you're passing are in Eco mode?
  • 8 1
 @fredro: uh well I sure hope they are, otherwise it's even sadder
  • 4 2
 @rickybobby19: I've been passed in eco before. I've never been passed running any other mode. I generally have it in eco when I'm riding with guys that are not on emtb's. If you're with a bunch of guys on e bikes they're all going to be smashing and milking battery probably isn't a priority. You're not catching that group on a climb. Those rides... usually 3-4 hours but it's a much higher pace.

Tell you one thing... riding out with a dead battery sucks. LOL!
  • 1 0
 @rickybobby19: truth. LOL!
  • 2 1
 Our big rides are 6-7+ hours. Those on ebikes always have a bit of range anxiety and a couple of range extenders. I get it, it's how I feel when running low on snacks and wondering if we'll make the cafe before closing.
  • 3 1
 @rickybobby19: I have an older friend who used to pace me on 6-7000’ days on his ebike when I was training for a mega ride. It was super fun to get to ride with him on these days.

Then one day I got sick and never got better. Now I hope to keep up with him on a MTB with me on an ebike.

Things change.
  • 54 3
 Currently the results suggest having an e-bike doesn’t change the ride duration. Makes sense to me. I don’t own an e-bike, but it seems like the primary advantage of an e-bike would be to ride more trails in the same amount of time, not to ride for more time.
  • 15 9
 Exactly this, if anything, the ebike has allowed me to reduce my ride time (damn adult commitments) but still do the distance, if not less time and more distance. Used to be 4-5 hours doing a chilled 30 mile group ride with a lunch stop and a pint stop on the way home, now it's go out after lunch and do the same distance with a two pint stop on the way home, and still back in time to not get nagged.
  • 9 8
 Before I got an e-bike I was only able to get a 1-2 hour ride a week and usually did 9-13kms during those days. Now I ride the same trails, in the same amount of time but I do 17-20kms and when I get home I’m not destroyed.
  • 16 1
 Funny, the whole point for me is to burn off excess energy. Otherwise I get restless at home and people ask me whether I shouldn't be outside riding or running instead of jumping around at home. Lack of sleep works as well (which does happen in busy times unfortunately) but when I do get enough sleep, it really is better for everyone if I at least have a decent ride (or half an hour on the pumptrack). It doesn't really make sense if the pedal assist steals the opportunity.
  • 5 1
 @inked-up-metalhead: why is distance the key metric? Particularly when you are being massively assisted for that same distance?
  • 14 2
 @Ryan2949: so you're being lazier?
  • 7 4
 @gulogulointhearctic: how so? I have more fun and ride more distance. Meaning I ride my favourite trails multiple times in the short time frame I have available to ride. I also still own normal bikes for group rides and rides with friends. But 95% of my rides are solo.
  • 2 4
 With an ebike you can take tons of food, clothes n beer and play out all day
  • 10 7
 @gulogulointhearctic: because that's what most people measure their rides in? Because that's what I used to gauge how much riding I've done, and I'm talking about doing the same distance ride in the less time I have available?

And the massively assisted isnt true, eco is not massive assistance (especially on a Shimano e8000), and with a 504wh battery, if I want to get over 20 miles, it's mostly in eco.

You can put down your anti eeb pitchfork, you don't like them, cool, whatever, couldn't care less, all I know is I get to do the same amount of riding in half the time, and Im fitter as a result because I can get out more often, most adults don't get regular full days they can commit to their hobby.
  • 5 8
 @inked-up-metalhead: I honestly don't get it; if it's about the distance couldn't you do it faster in a car or a rocket?
  • 3 2
 @plyawn: no, cos they won't fit down the sick single-track descents in my local area. C'mon man, use your brain here, it's obvious.
  • 3 2
 @plyawn: and the distance is because that's how far (15 miles) away I live from the biggest hill in the area, which is the natural point to aim for when wanting maximum descending fun. It used to take 3 hours to get up there pushing up the rideable lines, now I go the long way round up the road (there a TV mast at the top of the hill) in about 1.5 hours, without getting off the bike, to get the same 15 mile ride home, incorporating multiple 3-5 minute downhill sections, some high speed farm track, some riding on the bank of a reservoir, and then a descent down some proper mtb trails back into the town i live in. It's a great ride, made far more viable with a bit of assistance to get up the steeper climbs/keep the average speed in the double figures instead of grinding away at walking speed.
  • 4 2
 It's kind of funny: the main delusion about e-bikes if that "you do more laps". And here we are: despite Pinbike bias and the premise that "is kind of obvious that e-bikes ride more", it turns out motored-cyclists ride LESS than cyclists!
  • 2 3
 @dododuzzi: how do you figure that? Majority of both polls are 2-3 hour rides, but eebs to quicker, so we must be doing more miles. And everyone I know with an ebike does twice as many laps as they did before the ebike. And get out on single spare hours because it's practical to do so.
  • 2 1
 @inked-up-metalhead: Do you know how to do percents? Try and you will see that people who bicycle, instead of going around with a motored-bicycle, have longer rides. And "everyone you know" means nothing. These are data from more than 15,000 people!
  • 1 1
 @dododuzzi: I'm very aware of percentages, and I'm also aware that distance is missing from the survey, the percentages are actually incredibly close, only really the 2 hour MTB bracket has a significant deviation from the emtb equivalent
Percentages arent exact, I didn't go into decimala, and split MTB first, ebike second:
1 hour: 5/9
2 hour:40/34
3 hour:35/34
4 hour:13/14
5 hour:4/4
6 hour:3/5

Which shows riders have pretty similar time habits. But there's no disputing ebikes go quicker up hills, so if it's a 50/50 ride (because most are, unless you're cheating using a shuttle or chair lift) fast climb + same overall time must mean more distance and more descending.

So yeah, the data from 15000 people supports my arguments.
  • 1 0
 @inked-up-metalhead: in way your one post reads: I spend less time riding and drink more. Not sure if you noticed that? Smile
  • 1 1
 @kuna26: but still do the same distance? Surely that's a win all round?
  • 1 1
 Sorry, what is this argument about again? Some like to ride long distances, other like to just spend time riding bikes no matter how far it gets you, some like to experience the climbs, others like to rush it. Do we disagree what the other one likes?
  • 1 0
 @vinay: I think you're completely missed the point, no one's saying what people enjoy is wrong or otherwise, it's pretty much a debate on what the data suggests and how ebikes affect (or not) rider habits, and rebuttals to the anti-ebike lobby coming in trying to tell us something different to what we've experienced first hand.
  • 1 0
 @inked-up-metalhead: There was a point being made? Then yeah, I missed it I guess. It looks pretty messy from this end of the internet.
  • 44 3
 Ebikes are not for me, at least not yet at age 29. But Ebikes have allowed me to ride with my dad again! When we were both motor-less, any ride with him turned into a solo ride for both of us and me waiting a lot. Now we can ride together, and often he is the one challenging me to be stronger on the bike. He still gets his exercise to keep healthy, I get faster, and we get father-son time.
Its fine to dislike Ebikes for yourself, and I definitely take issue with how many people use/abuse them and our trails. But don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. Ebikes have brought a lot of good things to a lot of people, my family included.
  • 15 10
 Every avid PB mtb-er will own an ebike if they want to extend their mtb riding later into life when they get older. They just don't see it, yet. It not just about fitness and not wanting to climb. As you age, you start to get more overuse injuries and joint issues.
  • 22 3
 @tacklingdummy: I am old. I am on surgery no.5 for knees and shoulder. Still don't see it......must be my failing vision.
  • 5 5
 @watchmen: Been mountain bike riding for 35 years and older guy. I am still fit (mtb-ing, and running) and don't need an ebike yet. Still riding an analog mountain bike. However, I have some knee issues and don't want to get surgery. I have heard enough not so good stories of knee surgeries. I do see an ebike for me in the near future.

Perhaps you would not have needed knee surgeries if you rode an ebike before for prevention? I am convinced that ebikes can definitely help riders with knee issues both with recovery and prevention.
  • 5 13
flag kingbike2 (Mar 29, 2024 at 14:08) (Below Threshold)
 @tacklingdummy: The alternative to e-bikes when you get old is what I do, ride less.
  • 9 3
 @kingbike2: That is not a good alternative.
  • 4 2
 @tacklingdummy: spot on. I've been riding for over 30 years. I have had 2 knee surgeries from injuries sustained while biking. The result is It can really limit the amount of riding I can do in a week. I ride my Enduro as much as I can. When my knee is bothering me I jump on my Levo. I was opposed to ebikes when they first hit the seen. Now I am grateful they exist.
  • 3 0
 @tacklingdummy: It's more likely that running wore your knees out prematurely and not riding.
  • 8 1
 This.

I don't hate ebikes, I hate the sort of people who I consider tourists to the sport of mountain biking. The kind of people who want to turn up at the trailhead after having paid a vast sum of money for the latest gadget, drag their brake all the way down the hill, boast about how gnarly their ride was, then go home to buy their way into another sport which fits with their so-called lifestyle; all whilst keeping their heart rate below 110bpm.

Ebikes definitely have a place and for people like your dad, that's a perfect use for them. Is just that to me it offers some people an opportunity to devalue mountain biking.
  • 1 3
 @justwan-naride: Not necessarily, in my experience. I have had both knee injuries from both mtbing and running. Running helped me rehab a couple of times from a mtb knee injury and a broken leg from snowboarding. It does depend on the injury though.

With running there is less resistance and your legs are looser and more relaxed while mtb-ing your legs are under a lot of resistance. I think both can cause injuries. The ebike is good because there is less resistance and it takes a lot of stress off the knees.
  • 1 3
 @BeerGuzlinFool: Yeah, I agree.
  • 4 1
 Exactly. E-Bikes for people who need them (aging, injured, or disabled) are amazing, and I am glad these people can extend their joy of biking.
  • 2 0
 @tacklingdummy: Cheers for clarifying. I'm only an occasional runner while I ride a bike daily for at least 18km. Pedalling related injuries (or even pain) have been extremely rare for me, while running can cause some knee pain if I'm not careful. I used to have all sorts of knee issues before taking mtb in 2007, now they only start hurting if I have to stop riding for a month or so.
  • 3 2
 @tacklingdummy: I was a national level road racer when I grenaded my knee wakeboarding. I'm not entirely sure how riding an e-bike would have made my meniscus and Pcl strong enough to survive a doubleup backroll to blind into the flats on an extended leg.
Or prevented the plica seeing as it was there when I was born.
Or stopped me shattering my kneecap.
But you do you I guess.
  • 3 2
 I don't get this. I am faster than all of my friends. And most importantly, literally twice as fast as my girlfriend, who I ride with the most. What do I do? I slow down, I ride her (or their) pace. I don't force people around me to go faster, I chill out and go whatever speed then need to go and be able to talk.

Just seems so selfish to ride with others but not willing to chill out. "Y'all are too slow, I'll just drop you and wait until you catch up". Always so much roadie hate, yet those guys always ride together in packs just fine.
  • 2 5
 @watchmen: You are putting words into my mouth and not at all what I am saying. I am not saying an ebike can prevent injuries caused by trauma. I am not a mind reader and know what injuries you had. It was just a question of whether an ebike could have prevented some overuse injuries you may of had. I broke my leg snowboarding, do I think an ebike would have prevented that? No. Totally ridiculous to think that.

What I am saying is that I do think ebikes can possibly prevent some chronic overuse injuries especially later in life when overuse injuries occur more frequently. Also, with overuse injuries, one of the main rules for rehabilitation and recovery is exercising with little to no resistance. So, an ebike can help greatly with rehabilitation and recovery. During rehabilitation and recovery you could be perhaps walk, cycle on flat ground, use orbital exercise machine (easy low resistance exercises like that), but those type of rehab exercises are not the most fun or rewarding in my opinion. Or, perhaps you could use an e-mountain bike and have a much better experience. I would pick the latter.
  • 1 3
 @JSTootell: Why not get your girlfriend an ebike, then your girlfriend can ride at your pace? You would not have to slow down. Many are doing that. Seems like a better solution to me. Wink
  • 2 0
 @tacklingdummy: she'd kick your ass for the suggestion. She likes riding bikes, on top of being an ultra runner.

I also slow down my running to match her pace too.
  • 4 3
 @tacklingdummy: "Perhaps you would not have needed knee surgeries if you rode an ebike before for prevention?"
Get better at writing.
  • 2 1
 @JSTootell: Since she is an ultra runner, she knows the importance of recovery days. The ebike mtb rides can be recovery days. You can spin it like that. Lol.
  • 3 1
 @watchmen: Relax.
  • 2 2
 @brianm37 I am probably the age of your dad, and I ride a bicycle. Of course if some people are VERY out of shape a motored-bicycle might help, but the problem with motored-bicycles is that perfectly fit people ride them. They do not ride them much apparently, they are cumbersome, but it is another environmental disaster. Those 2-3,000 people ridingg e-bikes who replied to the poll? Each one has added a massive polluting battery to the pile of garbage we produce.
  • 40 3
 Doesn’t matter what is powering of me, 2 hours is 2 hours too long to my wife.
  • 12 11
 Yikes bro. Lay down the law or find a new wife.
  • 9 3
 @nvranka: humor isn’t for everyone.
  • 1 0
 Doesn't 'Brian' need a hand moving that furniture at some stage ....
  • 3 0
 2hrs is too long 2mins is too short geez, can't win
  • 1 0
 And don’t forget the milk!
  • 2 1
 @southshorepirate: Tell her you need a new bike with more travel because 5 inches isn't enough and watch the fireworks fly...
  • 1 2
 @dirtmakesmehappy: your wife certainly hates it.
  • 1 0
 @nvranka: I still don’t get how you’ve missed the joke, but I’ll chalk it up to cultural differences.

My wife doesn’t care how long I ride as long as I don’t call her from the ER.
  • 1 3
 @dirtmakesmehappy: in my country, we beat the women with reeds once a year to keep them in line. Take a page.
  • 38 8
 Hey while we're here, it's not, "On your left!!" it's "Good morning" or "Hi" or "Hey, may I pass y'all?"
It's not "Just you?" or "How many in your party?" it's "Hey how's your ride so far?" or literally anything else you malfunctioning androids.
  • 16 11
 But I don't care how your ride is going, I only care about how many more joeys i should expect to pass after passing you Smile
  • 3 8
flag Spencermon (Mar 29, 2024 at 13:10) (Below Threshold)
 I think this is a more general issue. Have probably heard most of these from people not on E-Bikes myself.
  • 6 0
 hey i just shit my pants and need to clean up please move
  • 19 7
 The worst ones are those that sit on your tail expecting you to pull over just because you can hear the whine of their motors. After one knocked my son down a bank trying to pass, I no longer stop for motor bikes.
  • 17 5
 @Lumenous1: Good for you, mopeds have no place on mountain bike trails
  • 4 0
 Same goes for hikers. The problem is as old as mountain bikes. Now is just hikers, bikers, and Freds on mopeds
  • 2 0
 "A GAUCHE! A GAUCHE!"
  • 2 0
 @thomasjkenney1024: it is only downhill you would hear it in french Wink
  • 1 1
 @Lumenous1: lol your list of groups you hate must be long if it only takes one idiot for you to develop a lifelong stance.

Most people expect you to move over if you’re in the way and it is safe / practical to do so.

Are you also the guy who sits in the #1 lane at 65mph flipping me off because I’m beaming you and you’re in the way with several clear lanes to your right?

Lucky for me, any of the dh I shuttle w my E is accessed by paths less traveled. No idiots in the way trying to make some sort of self righteous point.

I understand the vitriol for E bikes. Even as an owner of one, I still cringe when I see others riding them. But reality is what it is, E is here and riders good and bad are using it. I assume you are intentionally blocking pros or local rippers on their E’s too?
  • 18 1
 I could of swore there used to be an ebike filter on this site… I guess it’s batteries need to be recharged…
  • 7 6
 Yeah, this could have been too separate polls. Actual cyclists wouldn't have to see the trans bike content.
  • 4 3
 @JSTootell: Hey uh... no need to be a bigot
  • 3 3
 @JSTootell: nice try, go back to your hole
  • 4 0
 Turned off by the marketing department when they realised impact it was having
  • 16 3
 I’m a mountain biker and an electric mountain biker. Been riding MTB for 20 years, so I couldn’t give less of a sh!t about needing to justify riding an ebike when I want to.

I can enjoy the burn in the legs you get on a mountain bike, but more than anything what I appreciate about MTB’s is the simplicity. However, when I ride them it’s really all about the downs, climbing is just a means to an end and a work out whether you care to have it or not. Ride duration is sometimes less, sometimes the same but always less mileage or fewer runs.

Emtb - I enjoy the whole damn ride, climbing steep/tech or just climbing in general is enjoyable. It’s not just a means to an end. I get more of a work out on the way down or throwing the bike around on jumps, than I generally do going up unless I’m doing super silly tech climbing. Duration can generally be longer but most of the time it’s limited by whatever timeframe I’ve got to ride period.

My biggest complaint is either types of riders being d!cks toward each other based on whatever bike they’re riding or using poor trail etiquette.
  • 6 0
 You sound a sensible fellow. Don't think you'll fit in here I'm afraid....
  • 28 13
 Wow ..just joined..the ebikes content is weird.. thought this was a mtb website
  • 15 2
 You’re gonna fit right in.
  • 1 0
 @BermJunky: too true
  • 12 2
 Just the mention of the E-word fires up the comment section. Articles are judged on engagement and impressions so it's easy clickbait. A quick agregation post, a couple of copy and paste press releases and a linked article from another site.Throw in a pointless poll and you are done and dusted by lunchtime and you can go ride the bike for a few days. Work smarter not harder.
  • 14 0
 The could just call an article "Ebikes" that leads to a blank page, as long as there's a comment section it'll be a traffic vacuum.
  • 1 0
 Pinkbike/Outside are just going the same way that all the American main stream media has gone. There doing their very best to sow hatred amongst different groups.
  • 6 1
 So.........I got bored. And did some analysis of the last 100 posts.
Original-24 Av comments 87.
Press Releases -15 Av comments 15.
Polls-2 Av Comments 231.
Reviews-5 Av comment 190.
Reposted Videos-26 Av comment 25.
Results-19 Av comment 10.
Links-4 No comments.
Ebike-1 Av comment 262.
So reviews and original content are high effort/high comment. Reposts are low effort/low comment. But polls are low effort/high comment and if you make them e-bike related.....BOOM.
  • 1 0
 This was my original thought, but not so original, we’re all thinking the same thing

PB editors trolling for likes (or dislikes, all press is good press, right?)
  • 1 0
 PS I ❤️ @watchmen
data make my g-spot so tingly
  • 10 0
 I rarely ride my MTB for more than 4 hours but regularly put in 5-6 hours on the road or gravel bike. Gotta build that base.
  • 18 7
 My rides are long because I'm slow and should just get an ebike.
  • 22 6
 Don’t give up on life just yet.
  • 20 10
 I'd just like to emphasize that the poll phrasing makes it clear that eMTBers are not mountain bikers.
  • 14 5
 And I applaud the author for it. Mopeds aren’t mountain bikes
  • 6 5
 @Greasybrisket: and crybabies aren't real men
  • 7 3
 @BeerGuzlinFool: Sounds like you ride an e-bike
  • 4 4
 @Greasybrisket: must suck to go ride and get passed by an ebike then go on your favorite web site and see ebikes content and know neither are going away. Smile
  • 1 2
 @Greasybrisket: I have many bikes. An ebike is only one of them. Keep crying while I go and ride.
  • 20 8
 the E stands for easy.
  • 5 12
flag tacklingdummy (Mar 29, 2024 at 14:09) (Below Threshold)
 It can stand for essential as well.
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 existential threat
  • 1 3
 @mi-bike: and who is it threatening.?
  • 4 0
 exaggeration*
  • 8 2
 @BeerGuzlinFool: trail access
  • 2 0
 @29er1: just to be clear. I only ride my ebikes where permitted. Anyone who rides one on a trail system that forbid them Should be fined.
  • 6 0
 There needs to a survey option of: Currently 0 hours riding because it rains every Friday/Saturday and the trails turn into goo and I'm losing my mind and don't have time during the week to ride and did I mention I'm losing my mind?
  • 1 0
 You can dig?
  • 2 0
 What is up with California only getting rain on the weekends this winter? Dry all week then rain all weekend.
  • 2 0
 @birdsandtrees: I bust out the weed eater in the spring when the rain stops.
  • 3 0
 @JSTootell: very much needed everywhere in CA late spring. Thanks!
  • 6 0
 I'm fine with ebikes for the most part, but their existence has definitely changed the sport in odd ways. Going to the mountain where you'd normally be riding up with other like minded people, all putting in similar effort, all experiencing the same thing. Now, you've got dudes flying past you on ebikes, and there's no chance to start up a conversation or link up for a ride. You're basically on the normal bike pace, or you're on the ebike pace. It's split the community - at least on the non-shuttle lap mountains - between the two groups and it kinda sucks. And even on some of the trails that are meant to be bike only - due to remoteness and trying to reduce the number of tires on the trail to reduce wear - you've still regularly got ebikes ignoring the trail builders' request and riding on them anyway.
  • 7 2
 So far, the longer rides are muscle bike territory. Says something...

Side note, I find it hilarious how often I hear people talking about how e-bikes limit them: if the don't have enough battery to do a given loop with the power mode they want, they won't do it because they don't even want to think about pedaling their full power e-bike with a dead battery
  • 11 2
 I don’t have any interest in seeing the ebike results.
  • 9 0
 Depends on if I get lost
  • 9 0
 A gentleman never tells
  • 6 0
 I'd like to add a "How many kids do you have?" question so I can feel satisfied with my hours/kids ratio and go drink more beer.
  • 1 0
 100% I’m reading all this and wondering how so many people are getting in 2+hour rides on a regular basis..
  • 1 0
 @MJP1: every week. Sundays are ride days. Leave after breakfast and get home late afternoon
  • 7 1
 This site is just getting worse and worse with every post.
Non race season pink bike is click bait BS. Don’t quit your day job. Sheesh.
  • 7 0
 Stoking the flames some more. Pinkbike just trolling its users at this point. Sad.
  • 5 3
 @MidwestMountains: what's sadder is people allowing themselves to be triggered by something so inconsequential
  • 1 2
 @p0rtal00: ikr. Just read some of the clown responses to the top comment of this post.
  • 7 0
 Well at least we can all agree that a lot of riders absolutely, completely, 100% love to hate e-bikes!!
  • 4 0
 Will an eBike take care of my kids, go grocery shopping, clean the house and move the good trailhead closer? Time is always my limiting factor not fitness....

.... No shame to Ebikes, I love the idea of a self shutting bike in addition, I just don't have the $$$ for 2 Enduro bikes
  • 5 2
 Hahha, If you want to prove that eBikes allows to ride more then sorry, they allow you to make more laps, but the time you can ride is constant for ALL people having families, and those who do not already ride as much as they can. Isn't this poll just pointless?
  • 4 1
 Would be nice to account for bike park riding, or clarify this is only trail riding...maybe I'm in the minority but I pretty much only ride park all season, so my weekend rides are all day until the late fall...and snowboard all winter and spring.
  • 8 0
 I don’t know why comments from park riders always get downvoted but I gave ya props. There’s always been too much “earn your turns” elitism in mtb. Would do a lot of good for everyone to remember this sport would be nothing without the gravity rats pushing the boundaries and just trying to have a good time in the woods. The first mtb races were literally shuttle truck runs down a fire road.
  • 2 0
 I just assumed you would convert hours for beers consumed during your turn shuttling when I entered my answer
  • 8 3
 I always read the I have a family line for riding a ebike. What did everyone do before e-bikes? Just pack in riding when they have a family.
  • 20 4
 Ebikers have a whole quiver of excuses...
  • 6 7
 Actually many people do give up biking and other hobbies once they have a family to take care of. It's called being a grown up. Don't expect to be able to play like a 21 year old once real life hits you in the face. Unless you want to mooch off your parents until your 40.
  • 11 0
 @BeerGuzlinFool: amazing how many people manage to get up early to hit the gym, run, or do some other form of workout. Except, electric bike riders, they had to quit it all.
  • 2 1
 I think the bigger question is, who are all those people exercising sports where there is no electric assist available? And I have no doubt once we get electric exoskeletons people will insist that its the same as regular hiking.
  • 2 2
 Not ride as often or ever. I don’t have one but my riding/fitness involves lots of zwift and workouts at home. I might get out for a REAL mtb ride once every few weeks solo, and maybe once per month with a buddy. Thankfully none of them have eebs.
  • 2 1
 @BeerGuzlinFool: I do. The whole point of life is to have as much fun as possible on the way. If your not having fun or earning money then why do it
  • 2 1
 @JSTootell: yes . Because everyone has time in the morning to travel to their closest trail and ride.. lol.
  • 2 0
 @chrismac70: I agree. But, not everyone is able to.
  • 3 0
 To your point, when you have 3 kids under 6 and a baby without daycare, don't have a lunchbreak sans kid, and trails 30mins away, any kind mountain biking is not in the cards (e-biking or not). Gravel riding from the house can be, but need a window of opportunity and have to sacrifice elsewhere to make it happen. Usually that's A) Sleep, B) Flexing work or not working, or C) Not doing chores. None of them are great options. It gets better, but yea...
  • 3 0
 How many hours do you bull shit in the parking lot after your average 2 hour weekend ride?

0 hours straight home.
1 hour - talk about trail conditions and current bike
3 hours - drink 4 beers and your sprinter van to conversation.
6 hours - drink all the beers, grill, talk about every bike you’ve ever owned make 2 new friends, plan a ride, recap last seasons World Cup. Only leave when it gets dark.
  • 4 1
 Literally my trails:

First it was eBikes, but no one cared. Then it was the Surons, because they are just eBikes too. Now it is the dirt bikes. And now I don't know if a dirt bike is coming up the DH trail or not.

And no, that isn't an exaggeration. Hit a jump the other day for the first time I. A while and the face was totally worn away by dirt bike tracks. Same area I caught a dirt bike riding UP the jump line a while back.
  • 3 0
 depends on where im riding and the type of riding. bike park 6 to 8 hours xc and trail riding local spots 30 minutes to 3 hours farther the drive to get to the place the longer riding time to make the driving hours worth it
  • 2 0
 Rode eMTB ( half powered, with TQ motor and one from Transition with their own version of a half powered motor) for first time ever. Didn't like it. even SL eMTB is just too much weight... yeah it's kinda cool that it makes climbs easy ( especially smooth ones), but that extra weight is really a bad thing when things get techy... regardless up or down. I cannot even imagine chagging alone on a full powered 50-60lbs ebike
  • 3 0
 Depends, if I ride local two to three hours. If I drive more than and hour or two to a trailhead I want to ride until I'm just shy of miserable.
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 If I can get out for 3 hours I'm happy, that may mean half hour of stops along the way for various reasons, pretty much the same whether it's E or pedal.
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 Wow. "E-bikes let you ride for so much longer." Doesn't appear so. We're both riding about the same amount of time. Next would be a mileage survey. My average ride distance is 12.5 mile. It ranges from 5 to 25 miles. Median distance = 11.1 miles.
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 Weekends are for the race bikes and trail bikes ect, when there is an event or a shuttle crew that can be assembled. During the week however, when there is just myself and another that want to train..it's E-bike territory to punch as many laps as we can.
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 Every product has his audience. No hate against emtbs. It has his place for people like me. I will swap my analogue MTB against a light assist bike. I love MTB rides, but my body has his limits and long rides are a pain for me.
What is your suggestion, stop riding? Hell no.

Only thing I don't like are eSUVs with boomers riding the trails in backwards direction. Some hell of scary moments experienced...
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 People I know riding e-bikes say they can ride 3-4 hours no problem when they use to ride a bicycle less than a hour and be gassed but it’s still exercise right?
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 I rode on a hiker only trail today to extend my ride
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 Monthly #s due?
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 I bet everyone complaining about Ebikes is more than happy to ride all the trails my work crew has efficiently built using our work fleet of Ebikes. We save the trail funding almost 2 hours of budget each day not hiking tools up to the work spot, but getting to work in 10 mins everyday. Speed checks are more accurate with Ebikes on soft dirt leading to better trails. They are one of the best trailbuilding tools ever made since the chainsaw.
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 I just saw some of the data from a survey that the city of Park City, UT completed a few weeks ago to take the community’s temperature on e-bike policy. There was virtually unanimous favor for trail crews and riders with physical limitations (age or disability) to be allowed to use e-bikes on designated singletrack. You builders have carte blanche in everyone’s book. Dude on the new e-bike and full-face going the wrong way on a unidirectional trail is an another story though.
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 I don’t think anyone is complaining about trail builders using e-bikes, man. It’s not the mere existence of e-bikes that’s the problem, they clearly have some useful applications, the problem is conflicts created by regular riders using them on mountain bike trails. E-bikes aren’t bicycles, plain and simple, and as such they don’t belong on bike trails
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flag psullivan65 FL (Mar 29, 2024 at 19:37) (Below Threshold)
 @Greasybrisket: the conflict is only in your own mind
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 Trail crews could ride Sur-rons and no one would complain.
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 @Greasybrisket: keep reaching to help your narrative. Your ignorance is showing.
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 @Greasybrisket: ah I see you've become the sports official judge of what everyone else is allowed to ride. Everyone should shove their seat up their ass and take climbing as seriously as you
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 @Brave1i1toaster: indeed.

They also use trucks, atv, side by side and moto to do trail work and that's all good as well.
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 @Greasybrisket: the only conflict I've ever seen is when passing a regular mtber whose ego can't handle it. They say shit and then get all agro when you give it back. Hilarious
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 if youre injured or disabled.. Ebike all day. If youre able bodied, suck it up and pedal I refuse to move over for you
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 How do you know if someone needs an ebike on the trail or not?
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 Friendly rider, eh?
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 @tacklingdummy: you have to a gatekeeper to know that
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 I hope you get stuck behind a hiker that refuses to move over for you because their headphones are on too loud.
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 @psullivan65: Who are gatekeepers? How much do they get paid? and How do you become one? Are they stalkers? Lol.
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 Same time for me, just longer distances on the E...
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 Where’s the 0 hours. I don’t get to ride on weekends. Only weekdays.
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 Came to say this.
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 I feel an option of "however long I can get away with before I risk the future of my marriage" needs to be added.
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 I'm not sure the need to distinguish MTB and eMTB. In my experience it isn't exhaustion that cuts my rides short, it is other life responsibilities.
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 MTB rider on weekends, eMTB rider on weekdays (workdays) due to time constraints (50+h weeks, family, etc).
Best of both worlds. Never have I ever done this amount of riding in winter before I had the Ebike. Snow, freezing temperatures and shitty weather is much less of an issue if you can keep your rides shorter, but get to the good trails anyways.
If you can afford/justify having both. I’d say, go for it!
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 2-3 hours. I wouldn't want to ride much longer. I have shit to do. I've borrowed my dad's E-Bike. It only made the techy up hills fun, almost like riding my old Gas Gas. It added nothing to the downhills.
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 3 laps on my local mountain. With each lap being about 250-350 m vertical (Husky/Prairie Road, for those in Calgary)
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 username does not check out
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 What about miles? On a weekend +/- 3 Hrs ride I try to make 20 miles. Weekdays and on a more chill ride area I'm shooting to 1.5 hr 14 mile ride.
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 Sorry. Metric only.
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 How does this work if I'm a mountain biker on the weekend and an e-mountain biker on weekdays?
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 PingBike. Because ebiking is the new golf.
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 Married with two kids and soccer season is coming. I’ll take whatever ride I can get LOL
  • 1 0
 Has anyone seen one of these for backcountry skiing? No need for ebikes anymore!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEEYKSktCZ0
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 Before having a kid. 6+ hours Saturday and Sunday back to back. Post having a kid.... 2+ hours tops haha
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 I ride a eMTB and ride 2-3x farther in the same amount of time burning 2x more caleries and getting a better workout .Plus the fun factor is 10x better .
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 they need a road bike poll because i ride my road bike average of 5 hours on weekends but i ride my mountain bike on weekdays
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 e-bike or not, the limiting factor for me personally is taint time. There's only so much saddle induced abuse my old taint can take per day
  • 1 0
 Usually 1 1/2hrs ride, so I rounded to 2hrs. Mountain biking for 2hrs straight of up and down is exhausting - that's when it starts to feel like a young man's sport.
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 If we are going by the old creedo of "chamois time is training time" then I am getting at least 6 hours per day.
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 Long live long rides!
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 @TucsonDon some do:https://thisebikelife.com/e-bikes-overtake-buggies-for-some-amis/
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 About 2 minutes. Oh, were you talking about bicycles?
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 Is “average weekend ride” defined as one day or the two days of the weekend put toghether?
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 I get more even more enjoyment shredding my eeb knowing I'm upsetting the peasants and haters at the same time. Marvelous!
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 Quality not quantity is what’s important
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 More importantly, how may hours trail digging do you do?
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 I scrolled this far and fought the urge to comment. I'm actually pretty proud of myself right now.
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 I call BS on 6+hrs being an **average** weekend ride for anyone.
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 Pretty much like any comments section. Lets bash a group of people for shits and giggles. Disappointing
  • 2 1
 5 or 6 hours.... but half on saturday, half on sunday
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 Why does everyone assume ebike riders “are getting more laps”? Personally, I just rider bigger laps.
  • 2 1
 No representation for all the homies getting Laaaaaaps in thr truck
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 Weekends? That's when you cut the lawn and relax. Midweek is when you can get the goods.
  • 1 0
 where is the shuttle button ?
  • 1 0
 Tuesday is sacred. If you don't finish in the dark, You started too soon.
  • 1 1
 Gerald: I charge my spare battery in my Tesla, so like forever bro

Me: uhhhh, cool?
  • 1 1
 My new Stark Varg was the same price as high end E-bike... no brainer if ask me.
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 Instalment 36 of outside's free market research articles.
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 2-3hrs? You guys need to get out more.
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 What about women, or trans! Maybe you should go too?
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 The e-bikes are on my lawn again!
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 eMTB 6+ hours/wknd for the win... sorry not buyin' it.
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 Hey Let’s all have another wack at arguing about e-bikes vs non e-bikes.
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 Where's the category for the weekend shuttle bros?
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 the real question is who do they sell all their polling data to
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 1 hour weekend rides....Dad's with young kids unite!
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 Pro-Tip: If you don’t like e-bike articles, don’t click on them, don’t participate in polls about them, and certainly don’t comment on them. Engagement=$$$, and negative engagement still counts as engagement.
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 Do people really only ride on weekends?
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 That's all the free time some of us have.
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 Why are mopeds on a mountain biking website?
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 E-cuck festival
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 Mooga Oomgawa festival
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 Whatever you ride, ride it. If it feels like none of this is going to last, it might not, so get put off by talk. Just do.
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 eMTB made and makes me a better rider - I can go longer, get more often to the trailhead and thus more practice on steep trails.
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 Going longer. Isn't that what we all want?
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 You can go longer until you get on a regular bike.
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 Sounds like a Pfizer add
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 I go by miles not time.
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 Time. Not miles.
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 @archibaldbarisol: what does it matter? To each his own.
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 @jmard24: each comment is his”own” comment right? Comments don’t matter? If only we all lived by this people would talk a lot less smack! It would be quiet again. Like a library. Where comments were never allowed.
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 @Tigergoosebumps: what? Are you talking about? What part of anything in my response to a completely different person that suggested that he should stay quiet?
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 @jmard24: Mooga Oomgawa! Extamundo
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 Mooga Oomgawa
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 @jmard24: I agree. It was meant as a statement of preference...not of which is better.
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 3H ~
42 kms and 1200 D+ with Trek Powerfly LT 9.7 carbon 2019 in 500 W/h.
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 Human or droid?
  • 2 0
 @browner: This is not the droid we are looking for.
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