Descending Anticipation built around the first ride on the AM.200M.1 after seeing them in action on the downhill World Cup circuit. Not to discredit the Atherton team riders’ skills, but the AM.200M.1 displayed a magical way of sticking to the ground over bumps and not disrupting the riders’ balance.
Out of the gate, the suspension lived up to the hype - holy moly was it active, but not in a disconcerting, overly-progressive manner. This DW6 system is incredible. It just performed perfectly, over any terrain, and at any time, whether you’re on the brakes or not.
Seeing the team riders use the OChain active spider to isolate chain forces doesn’t come as a surprise because I’d wager that they are looking for every possible solution to forget about the impacts their bike is taking, but the DW6 suspension frees up the chain tension massively. The best way to describe it is like a chain-less Horst-link design.
At the beginning of the travel, it’s sensitive without plummeting deep past the sag mark. The progression is predictable and seems to come on early, instead of ramping too late and hard. The bike stays high in the travel to offer support to push against and generate speed too. Churning over the crankarms also produces instant speed. It’s certainly not sluggish to sprint away on or cumbersome to pump through rollers either.
When you do get on the binders, the geometry doesn’t falter by pitching forward from the braking forces and becoming steeper, like some Horst-link bikes can be guilty of. As a rider who stands tall on the bike and is more prone to those effects due to an upright position on the bike, I appreciate the settled, and active braking characteristics.
This isn’t a frame that will rattle you to death as you hold on through miles of braking bumps either. Maybe there’s something to those round tubes that reduces the vibrations. I thought some of that could come from the alloy wheels, so I chucked on a set of Reserve DH wheels to compare. Those added a fair bit of stiffness through the corners but I never felt any harsh feedback through the frame itself.
All of the cables that feed into the internal guides remained nearly rattle free, with the one exception of the brake hose along the chainstay. I noticed Rachel’s bike had an extra piece of rubber tape here and along the drive-side, adding another level of damping to the frame. A zip tie took care of the little noise that the brake hose produced, and despite the chainstay protector looking on the thin side, I never noticed any noises from the chain slapping around.
As much as I loved how the suspension was taking care of business behind me, I thought the geometry could stretch out further. Entering steep corners wasn’t so much of an issue, since the bike was plenty maneuverable, but when it came to blown out, high speed berms, I had the feeling that the front wheel wanted to tuck in and was less predictable than the longer, slacker bikes I’d been accustomed too.
I mentioned earlier on how I experimented with the fork pressure, bar height, and even backed off the rear shock’s low-speed compression to help the bike tip back and relax. I bet I’d gain more confidence with the front axle further away from my feet, whether that would be from a longer reach, slacker head angle, or possibly both, is another question.
That said, more (standard) sizing options also implies you'll also find yourself in between more sizes. All these options only mean so much if you can actually pick the one that suits you best. Which basically implies that the dealer should have all sizes in stock for test rides. That might be doable for a "Specialized Bikes Experience Center", but near impossible for a small builder making quite expensive bikes. It is to be expected that Matt questions whether another standard size might suit him slightly better, but it is a bummer that still continues on a size he feels is a compromise. And then writes his review based on that, to be read for the majority of potential customers. Yes, I don't expect the majority of potential Canyonon Neurononon customers would read that review on Pinkbike, but for a top level boutique DH bike like this one, I believe it to be the case.
Alu is anodic AF
I love my V2 Sentinel and the AM170 looks like a Super-Sentinel to me, similar to what you get when adding a Cascade link.
Part of the reason bikes are so expensive in the UK.
In the end the bike got stolen and even after I'd given them the full paper work the insurer decided to pay out the full value of the bike less 200CHFs so I might have made a small profit
The other schemes that are tied to the major retailers take away benefits of the scheme to both the employee and the employer
I'm not a fan of stealth taxes tho, which is what happens between £100k & £120k.
The guy maps out far more things into the design of a frame than most minds can bother having explained.
Heck, if he had it his way, he would design each bike for that specific person, their exact body dimensions, the track they're racing that weekend, their specific body weight, he'd set the shocks up personally to ensure they sync with his intentions for the kinematics, anti-squat, yaw, stiction...blah, blah, blah.
I'll ride whatever DW tells me to because the dude sees in 3D what we see is a stick figure.
His mind is an MRI. Ours is an X-ray.
I'm a #fanboi . My pronouns are yee/haw.
Throwing rocks from down there is sad. Beer up and try to be almost exceptional.
That said, I owned a bike with a DW suspension for a couple years and was underwhelmed by the experience. It was fine, but not the ultimate thing I was led to believe it would be. Significant bob on the climbs, harsh on descents. Now, I know suspension design isn’t all to blame — maybe it was the frame design, the shock, or the shock set up. But I’m going to say this — the concentric single pivot on my current bike climbs better and is far better on descents. Maybe there was a time DW surpassed all other platforms, but a lot of other designs have caught up.
So great that so many companies and pro riders are on Pinkbike and even occasionally get involved in the comments.
Can't we put any helium gas in tyres and hollow parts to cheat a bit?
Matt must have had this since well before Rachel's win last week, so brilliant crystal ball work from the Athertons.
But I wonder if Atherton HQ pushed him to drop it now, there may never be a better time...
Having played with the configurators myself, they seem to recommend some pretty small sizes which gave me quite a bit of pause, personally.
It's like I trust my bike sizing convictions, but maybe not enough for a oneoff $5K frame that would be hell to sell if it didn't work.
The made to measure option is rad, but no need to 3d print the lugs for common “stock” sizes.
www.restoration.bike/bike-catalogs/trek-catalogs
look at the 1992 pdf catalog.
You don't know what you're talking about-and it shows.
The issue with metal lugs and carbon frames is that galvanic corrosion can occur at the joints. This is pretty well sorted out today, but I'd avoid putting any significant torque through an old bonded frame.
If you want a great deal on a DH bike, YT is selling carbon Tues's rn for $4.7k with basically the same spec as the Atherton but an addition of a carbon wheelset...
I am looking forward to a day where the same becomes true for mountain bikes. 3D designing is not a rocket science (which I taught myself) and welding is also within reach of people. I hope additive manufacturing comes to a state where it becomes much more accessible and cheaper for people to build lug or frame prototypes for themselves. Building carbon tubes is already very much within reach and people are doing it without much issue. The current rate at which bike prices are increasing and how expensive bikes in general are points to a very unsustainable future where only rich and well off peple can enjoy the sport. It is already out of reach of most people.
1. This bike looks so dialed and new school.
2. Neko's bike looks so dialed and old school.
Two really rad things in bikes.
Have there ever been two of the same fork come out of the box and ride the exact same?
Seems like a mythical creature.
dirtmountainbike.com/features/designed-humans-built-robots
Was a great magazine, writing and top notch photography as well.
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