Deciding what type of shock absorber is right for your bike isn’t always as straightforward as it could be. A frame’s kinematic properties can be specifically designed around a linear coil shock or more progressive air spring. Popular trail and enduro bikes from brands like Specialized, Kona, Ibis, aren't known to have a ton of progression built into them, which is where an air shock can lend a hand.
Structurally, there can be issues too. Frames that rely on clevis-style shock mounts can stress the smaller diameter shaft of a coil damper, compared to an air shock, often leading to structural failures. Cane Creek’s new Tigon air-charged coil shock, designed for the high speeds and heavy impacts of enduro and e-bikes, aims to kill two birds with one stone.
Tigon Details• Twin tube damper
• Pneumatic bottom-out resistance
• Adjustments: air pressure, high- and low-speed compression, low-speed rebound, climb switch
• Sizes: Standard: 210x50-55, 230x60-65mm, Trunnion: 185x50-55, 205x60-65mm
• Shaft diameter: 12.7mm (1/2”)
• Weight: 475g (without spring, 210 x 55mm)
• MSRP: $899.99 USD w/o spring or hardware
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canecreek.com Step one was to weave the progression of an air shock into the suppleness of a coil. By adding a small air chamber to the coil damper, the force at bottom-out is raised beyond their popular Valt progressive steel springs. This feature can also add support all the way up to the sag point, depending on the air pressure.
The second part of the equation comes from reversing the orientation of the shaft to make way for the Ramp Tube, where the air chamber is located. This architecture lends to building a larger diameter shaft which Cane Creek claims stands up against clevis shock mounts, all while remaining minimalist in terms of packaging.
AdjustmentsCane Creek dubbed the air chamber the Ramp Tube, which can be set between 0 and 30 psi. Depending on the coil spring weight chosen, that offers anywhere between 20% - 35% of progression. That’s nearly double the maximum progression that Cane Creek’s progressive coil springs offer. In theory, there’s no issue with installing a Valt Progressive spring on the Tigon, but that would undermine the Tigon’s selling point.
The key difference between the progression that the Ramp Tube offers over a hydraulic bottom-out (HBO) feature, found on coil shocks like the RockShox Super Deluxe Coil and EXT Storia, is that the force is dependent on the position of the damper, not the speed at which it compresses. HBO is positive sensitive, but the damping force depends on how fast that's activated. This design makes the Tigon feel consistent when reaching full travel and return at more consistent speeds. Inside the Tigon, a mechanical negative spring is used to give a supremely supple feel. Inflating the Ramp Tube beyond the maximum 30 psi would overcome the force the negative spring can provide and cause the shock to top out.
A 3mm allen key is needed to adjust the low-speed rebound and low-speed compression. Thankfully, there's one onboard the Tigon that's secured by a magnet. The high-speed compression dial can be turned by hand and the Ramp Tube can be tuned with a standard shock pump.
In terms of damper controls, the Tigon features high and low-speed compression, a sweeping climb switching lever, and low-speed rebound adjustment. The HSC is controlled by turning a dial between 0-180 degrees, whereas the LSC and LSR feature 12 and 15 clicks. The latter two adjustments are accessed via a 3mm allen key that is nestled in the head of the shock and retained by a small magnet.
Why isn’t a high-speed rebound (HSR) adjuster present on the Tigon but is found on their Double Barrel-style shocks? Cane Creek felt that the return spring force of the Ramp Tube could be better managed by tuning the HSR internally for hard-charging. In Cane Creek's opinion, riders who favor bottom out resistance over pure downhill speed and control would be better suited to the Tigon over the Kitsuma Coil, which is why the Tigon is not offered in DH-length sizing.
SetupEarly this year, I visited Cane Creek’s headquarters in Fletcher, North Carolina, to get the full rundown on the Tigon and sample the demanding, yet diverse trails in the surrounding Pisgah National Forest.
Two popular bikes were fitted with Tigons to demo: the Specialized Levo and Ibis Ripmo. Both feature more linear leverage curves than most and use a clevis lower shock mount. Those specifications would suit the robust, air-charged coil shock well. I’d later spend the most time riding a Levo SL equipped with a Tigon that had arrived for long-term testing around my home trails in Squamish.
In regard to the setup on the Levo SL, I flip-flopped between two opposite arrangements. The first was with a 450lb spring, more compression damping, and 25 psi in the Ramp Tube. The second involved a 500lb spring, less compression damping and 10 psi of additional ramp from the pneumatic bottom-out feature. The 450lb spring equated to 29% sag and the 500 provided 25%.
Depending on the trails of choice and how long I planned to ride the Levo SL for, purchasing two coil springs wouldn’t be out of the question. On longer rides that might involve carrying a second range extender pack or a heavier day bag, I swapped for the 500lb and made the changes mentioned above. For general riding, I settled on the 450lb wound in 1.5 turns with the LSR 7 clicks from closed, LSC at -6 and the HSC about ⅔ out.
PerformanceMy last experience with an air-charged coil-sprung shock absorber was a system that friends helped me install on my parent’s 2003 Honda Odyssey, but that’s a tale for another time. How does a coil damper with pneumatic bottom-out resistance perform on mountain bikes?
Well, it takes the best of both worlds. You get the suppleness of a coil off the top and the consistency through the mid-stroke, plus the added support of the air ramp to avoid hard bottom-outs. There’s little downside to that added air spring. Even with the maximum 30 psi in there, I never found the ramp force to be too harsh or have any hint of seal stiction.
Moving from 0 to 30 psi will change the return rate from the end of the travel, so depending on the spring and ramp pressure riders who require higher spring rates may need to have the HSR re-tuned, something that Cane Creek is open to.
Cane Creek have worked tirelessly to pack a ton of features and control into this shock without creating fitment constraints, granted your frame can accept a shock with a reservoir. The only issue I could foresee would be the access to the Ramp Tube's air valve on the most convoluted frame shapes, and the accessibility to the climb switch. Even on frames with open shock placement, it took some time to learn where that lever resided.
As for long-term durability, I haven’t had this particular shock for as long as I’d hoped, but it has certainly had its fair share of hucks to flat on the Levo SL. In that time, it hasn’t missed a beat, lost performance during prolonged descents, or suffered any coil-binding issues. For those riders who focus on listening to their suspension while riding, you’ll be happy to know the Tigon is extremely quiet as well.
Price and WeightWhat are the benefits of combined coil and air springs worth? The Tigon will be available in North American through their distributors for $899.99 USD, without a coil or hardware. That’s $130 more than Cane Creek’s Kitsuma Coil and considerably more than a RockShox Super Deluxe Coil, at $549-580 (depending on the mounting option).
The Tigon, without a coil, weighs the same as a RockShox Super Deluxe air shock - 475g. The 500lb spring weighed 359g, which nearly doubles the weight over an air shock.
With that said, the Tigon touts the highlights of air and coil shocks in one package - there’s no other shock on the market that can claim all of the Tigon's selling points. Most importantly, the Tigon is strong enough to withstand clevis shock mounts. Simply put, it's supple, strong, consistent, and resists bottoming.
On that note of resilience, Cane Creek offers a two-year warranty on the Tigon against manufacturering defects.
How Does It Compare?Situated on a one-minute test track, I set out to do back-to-back laps on the Levo to provide a concise comparison between the Cane Creek Tigon and a RockShox Super Deluxe Coil (with HBO).
The major separation between the two bottom-out control systems is the point at which they kick in, and how vigorously they bottom-out. I’ve spoken highly of shocks from EXT and RockShox with their HBO components, but the back-to-back testing proved the benefits of the Tigon.
I’d describe reaching full travel on the Super Deluxe Coil like punching wet sand. The reduced bottom-out force is softer than the plain metal clang, however, the splat feeling can be inconsistent and too late in the travel.
Basically, the additional force of the Tigon’s Ramp Tube increases control before bottom-outs occur. The Tigon stayed higher in the travel through the same compressions and flat landings compared to the Super Deluxe Coil. That’s not to say that you’ll never experience any full stops, however, the air ramp does provide a slower, gentle touch on the bottom-out bumper.
Pros
+ Adjustable air spring adds support and control while maintaining coil suppleness
+ Ramp Tube doubles as a structural benefit for bikes with clevis shock mounts
+ Damper adjustments have ample range
Cons
- Riders may still find themselves between spring rates (yes, you could install a Sprindex system)
- Schrader valve can interfere with reaching the climb switch on the fly
Pinkbike's Take | Cane Creek have doubled down on a specific market that can benefit from the pneumatic bottom-out control found on the Tigon. Heavy e-bikes and hucking freeriders no longer need to sacrifice the small-bump performance of an air shock in favor of end-stroke progression. The Ramp Tube also adds structural integrity to the Tigon to allow it to work with clevis-mount frames, an area where other coil shocks have been known to fail. — Matt Beer |
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Plus DVO with their bladder adjustment. PUSH and Rockshox coil shocks have a similar bladder adjustment, it's just fixed from the factory and hard to adjust as a user.
Read the Starling Cycles reviews on Pinkbike. All of them get generally high praise. And because of single pivot designs, the bikes are actually digressive a little bit. The complaint is that the bike blows through its travel, as expected, but for
The reason why manufacturers tell people not to put coil shocks on is because people will often pick too soft of a spring rate to match how the bike feels with an air shock, and then blow through travel and damage the frame.
Also Starling would disagree with you From my experience, there are situations when coil shock is better even on a linear frame, in places where you can pump a lot but you do not bottom out often (e.b. you can jump and there are landings). Contrary to the popular belief coil shock may feel sporty, cause they have this legendary midstroke support.
The damping also plays more of an effect since the shaft speeds stay higher, so your knobs do way more for you.
Most all dirt bikes with the exception of high end enduro ones where you need ground clearance use a linkage system that translates the rotary motion of the swingarm into linear motion of the shock, for those exact reasons.
Adding that Two year warrant is impressive... way to go Coil Creek.
If you toss in a Helm Coil, I might even let them round 3rd base...
#votepedro
With fewer seals, a much lower pressure, and the physical negative coil spring, stiction and heat buildup are still greatly reduced compared to air shock. RAMP Tube gives the benefits of air and definitely works to minimize the downsides.
Looks like a dope piece of technology! Kudos, Cane Creek!
Honestly I don't see much use of this given modern big air can shocks that are perfectly linear in the first 70% of the travel with no spacers.
The major benefit of this is the shaft diameter, which is a good problem solver for frames that can't take a coil shock due to yoke linkages.
The wide range of adjustments is why I love running a Kitsuma coil on my current bike! Keep making cool stuff though would love to try a helm.
Where it might become difficult is when the main oil reservoir is on the opposite side of the shock from the tunable valves. The shaft displaced oil now MUST go through the shaft to get to the tunable valves, and there must not be enough flow there to get the kind of HSR damping they want. Same reason the Float DPX2 never got adjustable HSR, nor any "upside-down" type shocks, really.
Could conceivably add adjustability to the compression stack on there as well, but they must get enough HSC tunability from the bike-specific stacks combined with the adjustable upper-eyelet valves that it's not worth the complexity to jam another VVC adjuster into the shaft.
I really wish you could demo a shock and see if you truly like it before plonking down your hard earned cash. Shoot I would even head to the factory and pay $50 for a day rental and buy at the end. Hey CaneCreek make it so!!
Definitely get this one. Or better, yet a non shittily designed bike lol.
Correction—- Steel (any steel) is 3X stiffer than aluminum (any aluminum).
products.mtbr.com/product/suspension/rear-shock/stratos/helix-pro.html
Only reason I know about is because I have one on my 2000 Fuji (also has rockshox judy 32mm dual crowns).
Stratos met an early demise as specialized used their sketch lawsuit tactics to fold small companies, something that rightfully gave companies like the big 3 (Specialized,Trek,Giant) a bad name for a combination of patent infringement and frivolous lawsuits against bespoke competitors.
source
www.mtbr.com/threads/stratos-sued-and-out-of-business.225008
I think it should be pointed out in the article, that the idea of air assisted coil spring shock is nothing new to the bike industry.
surely this is wrong, the HBO for those shocks only kicks in at the end of the stroke?
So why all the comparisons for HBO in this article? Would you not agree that a shock could even usefully have both, since they're doing different things, with only a bit of overlap?
Wouldn't the better comparison have been to progressive coils springs, or pure air springs, and especially air springs with more than 1 positive chamber?
"Seems like it is not ok to hate on this product." is your mission to spread "Hate"
Haven't even ridden the shock and you coming in hot with the BS and trying to counter technology
with your YouTube UNi degree.
PB is a JOKE and especially the people with no engineering or mechanical experience weighing in.
Best part is the ones that are contesting and challenging can say HSR,HSC, IFP, LSC,LSR but don't even touch the dials. Prob take the bike in for a derailleur adjustment on their
AXS also.....
You on the other hand are making huge assumptions about me that you have zero base on making.
I simply asked why the question of the inherent friction that comes with seals are not allowed to be talked about? Cane Creek can chime in and spread their gospel - and I might be swayed that their new shock is not as stupid as it looks. I have a Kitsuma Coil and a Helm MK2 Coil and they are fantastic product. So i have nothing but good things to say about those products. But when new stuff are released I kinda want to know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth - so to speak. Just eating the marketing is not my cup of tea.
I take it you are en expert within the field? If yes: please enlighten us on why we are wrong and you are correct.
Is that it's a progressive spring vs progress damping.
"This design makes the Tigon feel consistent when reaching full travel and return at more consistent speeds."
So hydraulic speed-sensitive dampers aren't consistent? Should just ditch my GRIP2 and add a second air spring?
Return force is altered very very minorly by HBO... it's already consistent. Technically this has more potential for inconsistency if the air spring gets hotted up.
some designs (not brand specific) on HBO designs using BOC(bottom out cup)/piston on piston design, the secondary piston can be checked on rebound(having no effect) or can use orifice ports to control the comprssion and rebound into multiple zones.
HBO should have limited effect on recovery rate(rebound).
On the flip side a highly progressive low volume air spring will have an effect on rebound damping and increase recovery rate/rebound rate.
faster recovery rate/rebound is ideal, until it's not; through engineering and tuning this double edge sword can be dulled a bit
Is that really a problem? The force required to bottom out doesn't mysteriously change between compressions, so the shaft speed when it does so is going to be fairly consistent, surely?
You could adjust the air pressure and the chamber size. Nobody really understood it and many blew them up opening the chamber to max then inflating to max psi before closing the chamber.
Fast forward 20 years we keep reinventing old things under different designs.
What has really changed?
Which trail is that on?
www.trailforks.com/trails/pilot-rock
Rode it twice, both times were in sub optimal conditions. One was at sunset, so we were rushing to get down - we were parked over in the Turkey Pen trail head (yeah we screwed up major and misjudged some timing, I blame it on the beer).
Second time was in the snow and ice. The ride up Laurel was brutal, it just got colder and colder. Nothing like having frozen rhododendron leaves slapping your hands on the way down haha.
Need to get back and ride it in the warm sun...
If you look carefully, right before the deep crossing on Bradley Creek to the right, there is an old staircase and an old hiking trail. It showed up on one of my maps but not the other, dumps you out at the bridge on S Mills. You couldn't ride it if you tried, but it's one way to bypass that crossing. It was/is a proper bushwhack though, so you are better off just avoiding that area if the water levels are high.
Bradley Creek RD this year. It was a welcome turn on our journey
I have the Kitsuma Air right now on a Banshee Titan which has a long backend and is known for its lack of 'pop'. Zero issues speeding up the rebound on the air to create a really poppy feel, and quite a bit of ranges left to go further.
I recall Pink Bike reviewed the Kitsuma a whole back and had similar complaint about getting range in the fast side, and vaguely remember Cane Creek changing tuning. Maybe you had an early version?
That's 35 psi in the tube. Why would they set you up beyond their own recomendations or 10-30 psi?
"The RockShox Super Deluxe Coil's hydraulic bottom-out control is dependent on shaft speed."
What's with the apples to oranges comparison?
CC says Ramp Tube is NOT just for bottom out control. It's also a part of the spring system, not part of the damping system.
The Super Deluxe Coil also produces consistent spring forces, because HBO is not part of the spring system. It adds _damping_ forces based on both _position_ (last 15%) and shaft speed. And the speed sensitivity can actually be very good, because high shaft speeds means big forces incoming, which you may want big damping forces to counter, especially since there is only 15% travel remaining when it engages.
PB is terrible at comparing, can only seem to contrast.
"EXT's solution addresses that by delivering a 50% increase in the force required to compress the shock during the last 15% of the travel.
How does it work? As the shock nears the end of its travel, a secondary piston passes through a smaller tube. This increases the hydraulic pressure, and helps keep the shock from bottoming out. On EXT's Arma DH shock, the amount of bottom out resistance is adjustable, but on the Storia Lok it's pre-set from the factory."
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The architecture of this is closer to a Float DPX2 with a coil strapped on, than a Kitsuma Coil or DB Coil with an air can strapped on
They didn't mention IFP structure here. Is it even IFP, or bladder?
Sound familiar?
Also PB: gets a shock from CC, posts a review the day it's released
Also Also PB: we don't take ad revenue into consideration when reviewing our products
Which is what you see happen on pinkbike the vast majority of the time a new product gets released.
Don't get me wrong. I like to make fun of pinkbike. It keeps me juiced. Like any other review site that sees any revenue from advertising the products they're reviewing, they have huge conflicts of interest.
But the DVO review makes me think more that DVO never bothered to send them anything, and then noticed that sales were flagging in the face of over producing and a global pullback on consumer discretionary spending, and sent it out hoping for a boost in visibility to make some sales, more than it makes me think pinkbike f*cked up and didn't get around to reviewing it or was purposely withholding a review.
Purposely withholding a review while asking for more money would make waves around the industry real fast and burn a lot of bridges.
Also PB readers: Don't give a f*ck about a DVO fork
But in all fairness to DVO, they sent that Onyx into PB for review a year and a half ago...
From a purely personal standpoint, I’ve had the same experience with DVO stuff. Broke the second ride, dropped it off myself at their building, they forgot about it and took two months, then broke again. Maybe it’s better to hold off on reviews with negative tones for companies and let everyone figure it out themselves?
Figuring out why a product isn't performing well is pretty important. I want that info, or info on how far PB went to figure it out. Definitely see some differences there. With the Slash review, PB talked to two companies (Trek and MRP), and figured it out. DVO claims that they were ghosted. I imagine the Trek review would have been pretty negative if they didn't figure out the chain drop issue.
That's why transparency is important from PB. Maybe Trek got back to them with a fix same day, and DVO took weeks. Who knows?
The Onyx 36 was sent to PB about a year and half ago and evidently it was finally tested (very oddly as it's being replaced by the Onyx 38 ).
DVO claimed that Seb did let them know about the issues he claimed to be having, DVO tried discuss it with Seb, and even tried to have some video calls so they can find out what was going on and also suggested they send a new 38 instead as the 36 he was finally testing was at that point a legacy product.
Evidently, Seb never contacted them back and next DVO heard anything was when the fairly harsh review was posted.
And maybe HBO is more than you need. Perhaps for your riding you like the coil feel with consistent damping and a progressive air ramp at the end, instead of a big punch of heavy damping at the end.
Maybe you already have an ACS3 in your fork and want to replicate the coil plus air-spring-bump-stop feel.
#shrapnel
It also takes the worst of both worlds as well. The weight penalty and tuneability of a coil (have to buy new coil to change spring rate) with the durability of air (manual says 100hr full service). It does look cool though and that's 90% of the battle. I'm not sure why you WOULDN'T want velocity dependent bottom out at the end of the stroke like the RS and EXT stuff.
With fewer seals, a much lower pressure, and the physical negative coil spring, stiction and heat buildup are still greatly reduced compared to air shock. RAMP Tube gives the benefits of air and definitely works to minimize the downsides.
Add the very minimal stiction of one low-pressure dynamic air-seal, backed by a tuned mechanical negative spring, and get nicely tunable spring progression? Not a bad swap.