Descending Cannondale has made some weird bikes in the past. Hell, they're even making some kind of weird bikes now. They're still sticking to the Lefty, they're still making the Jekyll which, at best, could be described as "different", much in the same way one might describe a pug with its tongue too big for its mouth and that has trouble breathing as "cute". The Habit, however, the Habit is a different story.
Not only is it simply a good-looking bike, but it's also a good-looking bike because it looks clean and simple. That ethos tracks through to how it descends, too. It doesn't feel like it's trying to redefine the category or disrupt the industry with a lukewarm take. Instead, it seems that it is merely simple good quality fresh ingredients cooked with care. We review a lot of trail bikes, and there are many great ones out there, but each has its foibles. It's almost as if Cannondale has looked at the complaints people have made about this last wave of great trail bikes and just thought "What if we make a bike that isn't trying to be this boundary-breaking, genre-defining, world-changing thing but instead just avoids a lot of the criticisms other 130 or 140 mm travel bikes come in for?" It's extra-regular, and all the better for it.
The geometry is balanced - for me, this bike is near perfect in its proportions. The ever-so-slightly shorter reach and the high front just make everything feel so in range. The shorter reach means that also, proportionally speaking, the 440 mm rear end puts more weight on the front, as it's representative of a greater proportion of the bike's total length. Yes, your bike with a 430 mm rear center may well have ridden very well several years ago, but it was also combined with a reach of a similar value. So, although one tends to think of shorter rear ends as giving a more poppy, rear weighted, and playful bike, one could argue that the generation of short-stay bikes that enjoyed its heyday in 2015-2018ish oftentimes had more weight on the front than the long stay-bikes of today.
The Habit LT is weighted on the front, balanced on most trails, and able to handle very steep trails because of and not in spite of this well-proportioned and pragmatic geometry. I'm not a believer in massive reaches, especially when combined with short rear ends. This Habit, and the grip it achieves on any manner of trail is a testament to this.
The suspension is well-damped while also offering solid tracking. For a bike that is so smooth off the top the mid-to-end stroke support is very very good. In fact, this bike doesn't really have a blind spot when it comes to descending. Sure, it can hang up a little of square chunks if you don't have speed on your side, but it's all in all a very well-executed four-bar. I tended to run mine soft and fast, and it felt like the bike could reset between impacts. That, coupled with the sure-footed-yet-sensitive nature of the Lyrik, felt like a bike where the main components were all reading from the same page.
Its spec is largely sensible, where it really counts anyway. The Lyrik Select+ with the Charger 3 is a good fork, and the Super Deluxe shock is also a welcome addition. If you want a bike that can genuinely hang with enduro bikes on bike park laps and also has big climbs and all-day trail rides well within its remit, you could do a lot worse than the Habit LT.
I’d love to see more high performance aluminum stuff from Cannondale again. CAAD13 road frames are really good (if you can get one) but how about an equivalent Scalpel and Scalpel HT???
You mean the brand that makes $15k bikes and $2k single-legged carbon forks?... Are you high?
I am not saying their bikes are not good, even very good. But I did not find anything in the performance that justified the cost over other brands.
It was pretty amazing that our shop owner didn't offer a fix (well, that was the kind of guy he was) and even more so that none of the customers complained.
(never seen a Bullit or a VP Free cracked IRL, guessing your experience was similar)
I fully agree that weight isn't everything, but it is A thing.
Plus, with so many manufacturers (including Cannondale) refusing to list build weights on their bike specs, reviewers actually putting a bike on a scale is a valuable service.
I can get geometry and reach and build specs a dozen places including the manufacturer. Build weights often are only available from independent reviews.
@mikekazimer: I should have known to never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by Henry.
Thanks
Fwiw, weight isnt a big factor in my buying decision. Does it reliably do what I want it to do without worry and distraction? Lets go! Extra freedom units just means i need to upgrade the fitness.
"A value of around 100% should give a platform that neither extends or contracts under acceleration; above 100% and the suspension will want to extend, which could increase efficiency, and below it'll be far happier to break into its stroke."
You are begging for a longer dropper post than 170, but yet the 170 on the bike is slammed all the way down into the frame when you are riding. Where are you going to fit a longer one?
Actually, it still rides exactly the same. Geometry-based ride qualities of a bike don't change just because it's old. A given rider might not prefer it to something different and newer, but the bike will ride just as "very well" even several years in the future.
Fair enough, I am a huge fan of the modern trail bike. It does seem to be a true all-rounder, and is what I currently ride.
PSI, clicks of rebound and any additional volume spacers you might have added to the shock?
Thank you in advance
Isn't it related to REAR braking only? If you just pull the front brake alone, given the same fork and settings, same(ish) front-center and stack, every bike ever is going to lift the rear pretty m
And yeah, while I agree what's with manufacturers not spec'ing 200mm droppers on L/XL, the pics of this bike have the post inserted down to the collar touching the frame, so an additional 30mm of post would make the saddle too high....no?
I’ve never had luck with any Shimano hubs lasting that long, whereas DT Swiss hubs are pretty dang solid (and rebuildable).
Secondly, though I have never personally owned a Cannodale, the handful of times I have ridden a C-Dale have been positive riding experiences. That has been on some of their higher Alu road and cyclocross bikes. The ride quality was excellent. I would love to see some of that Aluminium know-how applied to this bike.
Thirdly, Cannondale, Please remember the wisdom of Spinal Tap when it comes to innovation:
" It is such a fine line between stupid and clerver" David St Hubbins
www.cannondale.com/en-us/bikes/mountain/trail-bikes/habit/habit-4
1. I would like to see the seattube be shortened by ~2cm, im on an size L (182cm tall) and in steep sections I really need to be aware of where my saddle is to the point where Im feeling not confident with it.
2. Give me the option to run a 27,5" rearwheel. Got to try the mullet setup on my 2022 Propain Rage and god damn it feels so good to not worry about the tire hitting you.
3. A slightly slacker HA, although this new version has that (64.7 (new) vs 65.5 (on the old one I belive))
Maybe someone here got any suggestions what could fit what im looking for?
I did also use the old version (size MD) and I am now using the new one (also in size MD).
The seattube got definitely shorter --> I am now using a 185 mm dropper and I could even fit a longer one.
All in all the geometry got better, it pedals better than the older model (thanks to the seat tube) and it is more capable descending.
Mullet option: that seems to be also doable with the new Habit: I did read here (www.mbr.co.uk/news/the-new-cannondale-habit-gets-the-long-travel-treatment-425693), that this should be possible too. I could find anything else online though.
It might be worth checking.
Thank you, Henry, for pointing out that rear-axle to saddle position is the major driver in climbing feel of the front wheel, not head tube angle.
Like the similar Vitus, seems an easy-to-recommend all-rounder.
said no Cannondale bike owner
ever.
it’s a full time job servicing the bike every 5 or 6 rides to keep it less deafening.
yet I keep buying them.
the bike you love to hate.
I don't understand this. Why artificially limit the frame's capability. It's built for 140/150mm, ride it at 140/150mm! Unless you're overly obsessed with geo and really need that half a degree steeper head tube from the shorter fork, why would you want to pedal around that extra frame only to have the movement stopped by the shock alone? Especially with only stroke changing, it won't even feel very different.
Even if you're similarly overly obsessed with "efficiency" or pedaling platform, you can always run the longer shock and fork at the same sags as the shorter ones, and end up with exactly the same feel, but keep the extra travel for forgiveness when you try something new.
(It's not that I as a random commenter should have credibility, let alone more so than Henry the bike mechanic and tester, it's just that my disappointment with R and ensuing purchase of RSC positioned me to compare them very directly.)
To prove it with science, one would only need to take apart and measure the Swinglink to see how much extra leverage it creates at bite point vs. the simple R lever.
Extra credit: What make does Biden fall off of.........?
@TheR: you write grammarly