Descending Enduro Mode: The Chainsaw doesn’t have one foot in because 62.9 degree is aggressive for a enduro bike and I dig it. Really, it’s built for the kind of rider that wants to retire their old school downhill bike and take advantage of all the trails on the mountain. They’ll still prioritize shuttling but with a dropper post and low gearing, getting off to push up the slightest incline won’t be necessary.
If you’re focusing on enduro racing specifically, I’d look towards the Spartan HP. The steeper head angle will respond quicker at lower speeds. With that said, the Chainsaw’s long front center doesn’t feel twitchy at speed and you can correct understeering through slippery corners as if time is slowed down. That will bring confidence for all types of riders in dusty berms and slimy roots.
Countering the negative climbing attributes about the Chainsaw, the descending qualities are top notch. The ride is buttery, quiet, and intuitive. Too much progression or wallowing wasn’t a worry, even with the air shock.
A cloud-like ride is controlled by the lengthy Super Deluxe shock. Often air shocks can have a tough time breaking into the travel smoothly and even taper off the support in the middle of the travel. That’s not the case on the Chainsaw.
DH Mode: I see a lot of riders on full-fledged DH bikes these days that wouldn’t dare sign up for a race and wonder if they’d be better off wielding a hopped-up freeride bike - one with a serious amount of travel that still comes unglued from the trail when directed - like a Chainsaw.
Hanging onto a bike in a downhill race can require serious weight shifts off the back of the bike. Switching out for the smaller rear wheel adds to the backside clearance for those huck-a-buck moments and helps the Chainsaw whip around corners even quicker.
Devinci advises that the fork bumpers contact the downtube. In the case of the RockShox Boxxer, this does limit the turning radius significantly. My concerns here were noticed when I tried to turn the bars and squash jumps or get sideways in the air - never in any corners you’d find on a downhill track, though.
A 50mm stem and 56mm offset was chosen for the Chainsaw DH. On bikes with head angles as slack as this one at 62.1 degrees (DH-mode), I’d prefer the shorter 46mm option that seems less detached from the steering input. A shorter stem would produce more intuitive steering. You’ll also lose 8mm of reach in DH-mode.
Switching out for the Super Deluxe Coil and an extra 10mm of travel is a subtle change. The air is impressively smooth, but the coil does give you a more linear feel through the mid-stroke. Basically, the bike rides a bit deeper and means you’ll have to yank harder to get the bike off the ground if no jumps are present.
I toyed with a 400 and 450 lb/in spring, seeing the benefits of both. Keeping one of each around different tracks or freeride days would be a sensible plan. On the softer side, I took advantage of the hydraulic bottom out dial on the Super Deluxe Coil and ran four fifths of the way closed. It’s enough to take the sting out of flattening the shock slower, whereas the air controls the end of the travel by ramping sooner and has a less mechanical feel.
After logging serious miles on the Chainsaw, there were a few talking points on the durability of the frame and servicing of the drivetrain.
The cable routing is ultra quiet and doesn’t wander as the suspension articulates. Similarly, the chain chatter is non-existent. I’d prefer to have a guide similar to what Norco placed on the Range - a slider that doesn’t put tension on the chain but still protects it.
I did have to keep an eye on the main rocker and seatstay pivot bolts. If this happens on a bike for review, I’ll let it go the first time around. On the second time around, I’ll fully clean the threaded bits and rebuild them accordingly. Luckily, a third occurrence didn’t happen but it’s worth keeping an eye on for the first few outings.
That said, I’d be willing to try the RE brakes as others have mentioned for having Code calipers. I just still don’t know why that brake exists. Why have that many SKUs in your catalog?
Sid/Pike: level/g2
Lyrik: g2/code
Zeb/boxxer: code/newunreleasedbrake
@cyclesdevinci: Thanks for being in the comments. The value here is legit! Bigger rotors would be a huge upgrade and maybe not add a ton of cost at your end. Though I do not know all that goes into hitting a price point.
I might actually rather have the G2 RE. Assuming it's very similar to the previous gen Code R, it should have nicer modulation and a shorter lever throw than the current Code R. It is down on power and heat management, but you can bandaid both those issues with a big rotor. (Not that big rotors have no downsides).
A lot of people would choose Code R for the inverse reasons; a little more power, better heat management, and not to be ignored - Bleeding Edge.
The current Code caliper has a healthy amount of pad rollback, which is good as a system with Swinglink levers, but it falls flat when paired with the basic R lever. Makes for an unpleasantly long throw and somehow LESS control at the bite point rather than more.
Sorry got a bit out of control there... Code R is one of my pet peeves.
Shimano XT M8120 on my other bike with ice tech rotors 180r/203f are way better.
When I see Pinkbike editors calling RSCs the best on the market I think they must have either very different criteria or the RSCs they have are not the same as mine.
So that's just all part spec stuff.
Pity the article did not mention the bike’s namesake.
Long live Chainsaw indeed!
blackdiamondwhistler.com
"Devinci has used Split-Pivot suspension, in one form or another, for more than a decade. It takes a standard four-bar system and combines the dropout pivot to co-rotate around the rear axle."
It's a pet peeve of mine that bikes with split pivots get high praise but right next to them the linkage driven single pivot gets panned for being 'basic'. You didn't do that here @MattBeer but you did mistakenly identify the suspension type.
Seems like all other pivots are only driving the shock when you look closer.
And I'm not claiming anything unknown, this is well established fact, if the axle moves in an arc directly controlled by the pivot point of the chainstay with no pivots in between it IS a single pivot. No matter how you drive the shock.
Kind of like the erroneous claims about some modern '6-bar' suspensions in reviews. These are usually short link bikes with a couple few linkages driving the shock, ala Polygon Colossus.
"Linkage driven single pivot" is the right phrase to use here becaue it describes exactly what is happening: Axle path determined by single pivot and other characteristics like anti-rise, leverage, etc. determined by the linkage driving the shock. It doesn't matter how many bits there are in the linkage or where they are located.
In a 4-bar suspension layout you have a pivot near the chainring, and one before the axle, that isn't true here.
This is without a doubt a single pivot bike.
When talking suspension layout the number of linkages and pivots driving the shock are not how you define it, but the number of links and pivots between the axle and the main pivot.
You seem to be confusing the two.
Have a nice day.
I get you don't want to admit to being wrong...
But it's pretty obvious by now.
Great looking bike.
"Climbing is a chore; no lockout on shock, short dropper, cramped seat position, pulley friction."
How is no one noticing this?
It probably shouldn't, but they really wind me up.
Utterly pointless!
Not saying you can't or shouldn't, just pointing out that there's often a reason they're there, whether you want to heed that reason or not.
@mattbeer?
It's a park bike. What's with brands these days trying to get away from that denomination? Smaller market?
I think this bike is targeted at jerrys who need the latest wheelpath, maximum traction/rollover for their occasional blue tables freeriding train sess. I mean they definitely have more money than actual park rats, so can’t really blame them.
Specs pretty solid for a very affordable rig.
Please explain how you all would do better for the same $?
Either keep the stem length or size up, seems easy enough right?
I don't get complaining about the effective tope tube when the reviewer shortened it, AND chose the smaller of two sizes they fit on.
Comments @mattbeer?
We want objective reviews, not this review.
Nope, never, ever, ever, not on any bike I've owned or ridden. Just get on with it. It's not a race
1.35*2=2.7seconds
3 seconds over 5 minutes
.3 seconds saved
Honestly though it feels way better on my enduro bike and people can stand on whatever hill makes them happy.
Stupid is as stupid does...
If you're saying that _most_ brakes are underwhelming, then maybe you need to reevaluate your expectations.
I also didn't anything about _lowering_ expectations. It's very good to expect greatness from the best. But to expect any one mid-level price-point brake to be _that much_ better than all the other mid-level price-point brakes is pretty silly.
And to anyone complaining about brakes, have you tried better compound pads? Larger rotors?
No, just that they aren't powerful enough. f*ck off with that attitude.
Thanks for keeping his namesake around
Are you donating any of the profits to his charity or is his mom getting any royalties from each sold bike? Crickets.
But I have to agree that maybe a different name would be as effective.
It does seem like a callous move to profit off of a deceased rider.
Cool bike though and I would like tk try one.