Frame Details Orbea is no stranger to carbon construction thanks to their long history of building high-end road frames using Orbea Monocoque Race (OMR), a high modulus carbon makeup. The matte clear coat over the raw carbon on our test bike left no room for flaws and the frame is backed by a lifetime warranty.
Starting at the head tube, the bearings rest directly on molded, carbon races, which is an area burly enough to handle a 180 mm single crown fork. The neat cable ports allow the rear brake line to be run on either side of the handlebar and are held in the downtube with partially enclosed guides, but spend a fair bit of time outside of the carbon skeleton. This is visible from inside the first of three "Lockr zones" - the downtube storage, accessible by unlocking a lever on the bottle cage hatch. Opening up the door reveals a neoprene bag to hide your snacks or a light jacket, and on the backside of the water bottle door is a small rubber band to hold a tire lever, CO2 cartridge, or any other simlarly shaped item.
Packing all of those features inside the front triangle was no easy task. A 650ml water bottle at the lowest possible position rubbed the shock reservoir upon loading and unloading when a pump bracket was installed under the cage. Above the bottle cage lies the 12-millimeter offset shock to give way for an asymmetrical brace between the seat tube and top tube, adding to the rigidity of the frame. Orbea states that this layout retains the best stiffness to weight ratio. On the yoke, you'll find a flip-chip to slacken the angles by half of a degree and shorten the reach by 5 mm. The 27.5" wheel clevis is slightly longer to rotate the seat stay rearwards and nearly retains the geometry of the lowest 29" setting.
A tube in a tube in a tube. The cable routing stays quiet inside the frame and can be run moto style.
To offer protection on this sleek finished fiber frame, a rubber molded downtube shroud wraps under the 73 mm threaded BB area, topped off with ISCG 05 tabs. An e*thirteen Micro chain guide covers the top of the ring and is scantily perched on a secondary bracket that reaches out from the ISCG tabs. Plastered along the top and bottom of the chainstay and underside of the seatstay is more rubber, but that stops a little short of the chain and ring engagement.
For the powerhouses out there, the rear triangle is bomber enough to carry a 223mm rotor and has clearance for a 34-tooth ring without pushing the 52mm chainline further outboard.
Enduro Max Black Oxide bearings are found on all of the pivots and are equipped with extra seals to keep out the worst elements. Two of these pivots on the front triangle are anchored down by pinch bolts to alleviate overloading the preload on the bearings, which would increase the friction and hinder the suspension performance. Inside the forward rocker pivot is the second Lockr stash - a small tool holds a set of common hex keys from 2-5 mm. You'll need pincer-like fingers to disconnect it from the small magnet and rubber seal holding it firmly in place. That's not enough to complete a full tear down or tighten the 10mm main pivot bolt, but it should let you quickly adjust cockpit controls.
No stone is left unturned on the Rallon, and thoughtful touches include the respective torques printed on the main pivot bolts. The third Lockr zone is found at the removable rear axle lever, which doubles as a valve core remover.
Three "Lockr" zones highlight the Rallon's resource carrying capacity. A neoprene, zippered bag will be included for customers.
I mean, if you don't think that comprimises are ever made on a $10k bike, you're wrong. could it be that this chain guide was all they could source with current parts issues?
I have the last gen Rallon with a OneUp chainguide, and no issues with noise or chain drop.
If it’s not your own anecdote, don’t use it.
wtf mate. lmao
freestylebikes.co.uk/husqvarna-te300i-2022-enduro-bike
This analogy is tired.
Try getting a motorbike primarily constructed from carbon fiber and titanium bits, and get back to us with the price.
There’s so many companies making bikes now, must be dozens, the margins must be pretty good!
Both bought new?
Bruni likes all aluminum stuff on his bike, but it’s still 10k, I’d guess.
One can certainly buy a new entry level moto and a high end bicycle for the same amount of money. I’m just trying to compare apples to apples.
The bike that this article is about is a pro supercross bike in the moto world, and those run $100k or so.
Try getting a mountain bike primarily constructed from high tolerance machined and ground forged components, with dozens or hundreds of moving parts, and get back to us with the price.
Boutique markets always deliver boutique prices. Mountain bike prices are the result of the contrived exclusivity that bike brands and retailers manufacture. Consider the complexity, material and logistical expenses of a Chevrolet Spark, which starts at $14,595, which is less than some of the major brands' top e-bikes.
Forty years ago, carbon fiber was incredibly expensive, niche and difficult to fabricate. It is a commodity item now.
Sure, at the moto shop.
We are speaking to elite racing here
No one's talking about "flawless". This isn't a little flaw. This ten thousand dollar mountain bike loses its chain when you take it mountain biking in the mountains. It's unfit for purpose out of the box. For ten grand.
Also a recall for a possibility of something happening to cover the manufacturer's legal ass is not the same as something actually happening. Knowing e13's reputation it's pretty safe to expect Matt won't be the only one with that issue.
Waiting for Orbea to recall Rallons and put working chainguides and chainrings on them though. That would actually be the kind of customer service expected with a premium item.
But thats not the point here, the point is that vehicles costing in the millions of dollars had to be recalled - including for cracking driveshafts, tire defects, and literally parts falling off the vehicle.
This is not the first, nor the last time a brand will spec a part on a bike, that doesn't like up to its specs. Just don't pretend like Orbea is unique in this, or that Bugatti doesn't have the same screw ups.
where we are at: this one chainguide was shit
where you are at: ORBEA NEEDS TO RECALL EVERY BIKE UNTIL THEY SORT OUT EVERY CHAINGUIDE(regardless of whether or not it's a systemic issue)
big deep breath buddy........
Sarah: XC/pedally riding
Levy: XC hooligan/gravelduro
Alicia: regular, balanced rider
Kaz: DH focused, not racing
Matt: DH focused, fast as f*ck
And somehow everyone seems to ride and work together well. Well done, and thank you!
The more time you spend on this site, the more the Grim Donut philosophy makes sense.
And it's awesome that Enduro bikes are hitting the point of diminishing returns. Gonna be cool when you can pick up an enduro bike from today in 10 years and have it be basically the same thing as a new one.
@DavidGuerra: Ooooo do expound on that please. It's the BB measurement I'm most interested in.
The ridiculous cost is actually why I’m not buying this bike. It’s not that I can’t afford it, but I’m not supporting this shit
www.specialized.com/ca/en/s-works-enduro-ltd/p/205558?color=335000-205558
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOfyZgHyexA
SJ EVO Swork: $3400
Fox 36 Factory: $1140
X01 groupset $1124 (colorado cyclist)
Code RSCs $490
200/180 centerline Rotors ~$150
I9 A35 stem: $155
One up bars: $150
GTFO you are at $6600 before dropper, wheels, and tires.
I don't work in a shop anymore but when I did under the big S wholesale was ~70% off MSRP and EP was ~30% of that. That $8600 bike would've been $4400 before shipping. I'm sure the deals are worse but it should still put that bike in the ballpark of $5000-$5300. Also, everyone that works in a shop knows the most cost-effective way to build a bike is to buy an expensive model at EP, sell what you don't want, and EP the rest of the components. This is because complete bikes are always going to be cheaper than a frame build, we can't compete with the negotiated prices between component and bike manufacturers.
Again looking at that $8600 Evo pro. Nobody is building that bike for cheaper than they could get complete unless you put a bunch of used parts on the bike but I'd still call BS because there are no good used deals on AXS.
Fox 36 Factory: $570
X01 groupset with the cheaper X01 crank and BB: $662
Code RSCs $256
200/180 centerline Rotors: $51
I9 A35 stem: $85
One up bars: $80
One up Dropper W/remote: $155
DT Swiss EX1700: ~$550 (he couldn't find the exact price)
So are you saying if you are patient you can get EP pricing on components even when the rest of the world can barely find anything stock?
It may seem like splitting hairs, but if a bike has two geometry settings it's preferable that they give the bike two distinct ride characteristics.
Thank God for that.
Feels like 64 degrees is squarely in the middle of the modern enduro bike, and Transition is off on its own with the Spire.
Transition is willing to let consumers try just about anything, their bikes seem to be a bit on the overbuilt side of things, so have fun with them.
People seem to get hung up on some of these things, put a 650 wheel on there and try it out, what on earth could possibly happen if you do?
Really? Not according to... let me see, what was my reference... oh yeah: www.pinkbike.com/news/pinkbike-poll-has-your-shock-ever-failed.html
"Clevis links increase the leverage over the shock, meaning a given lateral force is more likely to cause the shock to buckle or bind"
Make up your damn minds!
That's a weird way to describe it, since lower anti-rise means the wheel is _not_ pulled into the travel as much. Perhaps you meant the low anti-rise leaves the travel available to the rear wheel, invites it to _use it_. To me, "inviting it into the travel" sounds like it's actively pulling the wheel into the travel, which is a high anti-rise characteristic.
inviting: offering the promise of an attractive or enjoyable experience.
@mattbeer: for further reference: knowyourmeme.com/memes/banana-for-scale and/or www.google.com/search?q=enduro+banana
Yes, many things come in different shapes. I don't need to know right now which tools actually fit with how much clearance. Just a reference.
I was told back in Dec that they were waiting on fork & handlebars... then in Feb I was told they're now waiting on rims & drivetrains.
It all sounds like a bunch of hoopla to me
Nevertheless, great that even painting (and assembly anyway) is done in Spain.
Thank you!
Put a 180 fork on mine. Was a win win really.
The lower builds are pretty decent value.