Descending There's no one distinct element of the Steezl that defines the descending to me, it's just a nicely rounded package. An easy bike to feel comfortable on, and a good bike to push if you so desire. Fun, quiet, and super capable. This is the bike I brought with me to Crankworx Whistler this year, so it saw about two weeks of park laps and nasty pedal trails in addition to all the more typical riding around home. Skinny tubes and all, the Reeb held its own at the bike park, with one important caveat: I swapped the Lyrik for the Zeb pretty early into that stint, as it really felt better suited to the bike's intentions. Overall, my only criticism of the Steezl is that it does feel like a bike better suited to the biggest forks on the market, despite the original build kit it came with.
With a 170mm fork installed, the head angle is slightly slacker, the stack is a bit higher (though it never felt too low), and the suspension felt more balanced front to rear. If anything, this is a weirdly circuitous compliment to the rear end of the bike, which worked very well in a very wide variety of terrain, from slow picky tech to fast-as-you-can bike park bumps. Some part of the comfort in that latter terrain is possibly due to the steel chassis, but I think that ends up being more to do with the quiet sound of the bike than any sort of distinct flex or damping.
It's definitely not a super-stiff chassis, like some massive box section carbon and alloy bikes can be, but I'm hesitant to bang hard on the
steel is real pulpit and say that the tubing is the only factor at play here. To test this out, I popped a very stiff set of carbon e-bike wheels on the bike and went for a back-to-back ride with the stock alloy hoops, and found that the rigid set really changed the character of the bike, giving it a slightly more unforgiving feel. All to say, I think the Steezl is a plenty stiff bike for hard riding, without being harsh or chattery on choppy sections of trail. Equal credit goes to the well-considered tubing spec, the smartly-chosen aluminum rear end, and of course the Cool Ranch Technology in the rocker link.
I spent some time with the Steezl as a mixed-wheel bike, which was a nice easy swap thanks to the simple shock mount flip chip. The bike felt a bit better jumping in the bike park, and had that additional maneuverability that tends to accompany the smaller rear wheel. I wouldn't say it's significantly better in either orientation, but for the most part I think the Steezl feels like it's meant to be a full-29 bike - you can just happily run a smaller wheel should you choose to. Because of the somewhat higher ride feel of the bike, some people might want more butt clearance for steep features; you can see me hovering above the danger zone in a few of the ride shots. I think I tend to crouch a bit more over a bike with a higher bottom bracket, in order to get my weight lower over the wheels.
The suspension feel is supportive enough for hard pumping and speed generation, without any weird drop-off that you get with more progressive bikes in this travel range. The grip is there when you want it, and the shock remains active even when the brakes are locked up. That latter attribute is something I've really come to look for in bikes that you'll be riding in steeper terrain, as it allows for better braking and control in rough sections where you're simply trying to dump some speed. Some people really prefer the deep and planted feel of a bike that squats a bit more when the brakes are on, but I like the lively, sometimes exciting sensation of a higher ride.
Along those lines, the bottom bracket drop isn't massive on the Steezl, so folks looking to be very in the bike might want to give that a thought. It's not as on-the-bike feeling as my SB160, but not nearly as low-slung feeling as other options out there. Again, this is a matter of preference, as I think the bike still feels very balanced and secure in tricky spots - it just rewards more active riding than pure passenger mode.
I know I can do alloy because that’s for poor people.
"Carbon because it's stiff" is so 2017.
The downside is that the SST isn't much lighter, so potential buyers are faced with "do I want a 32lbs 120mm all steel bike, or a 34lbs 155mm mostly steel bike?"
As for Steel - I don't know your cotic but we should not compare bike weight but frame weight and probably not the burliest carbon frame to the lightest steel frame as the durability is probably not comparable.
Not saying steel or alu is bad. It's just carbon has a slight weight advantage given similar durability. You just pay a lot for that advantage
As for the steel-to-carbon durability comparison, I truly like steel bikes because of the durability factor, and Cotic preaches that a lot. The ability to replace/repair a section of a steel bike vs trashing a compromised carbon frame is nice, and also knowing that certain impacts that will crack or break carbon won't affect steel in that way, and if it does break it can repaired rather than replaced.
Ultimately it really does come down to feel preference and weight goals, and figuring out what tradeoffs you're willing to take when you choose a bike.
now.....for the one manufacturer that I can think of that uses a completely different suspension platform for each bike, Antidote, the answer is clearly one of each!
OK it cost 3800 USD but it's craftsmanship, if it was made in large quantity in Taiwan it would cost half the price.
So why are we spending the same amount to buy some non recyclable carbon frame made in China?
To save 1 kg.. and still.
I am raining on your parade here... I am genuinely curious why it is important because as hard I I've tried I see absolutely no way to confirm my shit gets properly recycled
The best thing you can do - is not to buy this bike, it will have much more impact then "possible" future recyclability of it
I took my last aluminum frame to a scrap yard and got $4 for the frame. It helped that it was raw and I had popped the bearings out.
Curious to know what you mean by "shit". In Canada your household recycling is handled by your municipality, and they will tell you what happens to it. If by "shit" you mean bikes, then there are thousands of companies who upcycle/recycle bikes.
So yeah, I vigorously fill up my blue bin, even used to wash food containers and etc. But I would not be making my purchasing decision on the recyclability of the item.
When I buy new shit, recyclability of it doesn't influence my choice. But how eco friendly company who makes that shit - is!
But aside from recycling, lets get back to the other, more important facts, that carbon is more energy intensive to produce and more harmful to the environment when we're done with it because it does not degrade and it becomes micro-sythetic particles. As I say, at the very worst, your alloy frame will rust away to the minerals it's made of.
I have a Murmur and it's beautifully made (and to look at) and has a special ride quality, but it's more of a hefty all-mountain bike than an enduro rig IYKWIM.
The Reeb frame is almost triple that, is it 3x better?
such a rad little frame.
Also, bearing alignment being spot-on is really, really important if you want a frame to ride right and last a long time. Most companies have reasonably good alignment these days, buy some budget frames (one rhymes with eye-tea) have an earned reputation for poor bearing alignment.
Anyone see these in the wild yet? Any real-time impressions to share?
I have mine with a 170mm Mezzer and Kitsuma rear. I haven't tried with an air shock in the back. It replaced a Sqweeb.
The bike rides great, it pedals really well for a bike in this category and while it's not as lively as the SST, it doesn't pedal like a hulking mass or rob your energy either. I find it really planted feeling, it tracks well and carries speed through rough/chunky sections very well. It's a very fast bike when you let it open up. It's not as responsive as the SST, which is to be expected, but it is still responsive enough for a bike of this category. It doesn't feel super cumbersome or awkward in turns, it carries through switchbacks better than any bike I've had (for reasons I can't entirely explain). I ride mine on pretty chunky, not super steep, stuff and it's the only bike I've had in years where bolts weren't falling out by the 3rd ride. After 6 months of riding I've not had to tighten a single bolt and all were still to spec
My only issue is the seatpost clamp seems insufficient, the post was slipping a bit for me at first, but some friction paste solved that. That and I kinda miss the versatility of the Sqweeb. These are such minor "gripes" they are barely worth mentioning.
REEB is a great brand to deal with too, I've had their bikes on and off since around 2017 and they are a great group to deal with. They are a small brand, so you have to keep that in mind, but their CS is better than any brand I've dealt with. I just wish they'd make cranks and handlebars (I still have a pair of Dale's bars though!)
Would you mind telling me what a frameset incl RS SDLX would cost me in € and directly delivered to my European door?
Thanx!
At the end of the event on Sunday, we met up and he asked me what I thought of the steezl compared to everything else I rode. Hands down I felt the reeb Steezl was the all around winner. It climbed as well if not better than carbon bikes and descended with travel to spare. This should be your next bike if you’re looking for anything over 120 in the rear. Also, the entire Reeb crew should get shout outs for making good on their name (backwards) and handing out cold ones all day every day of the event. Support this company, they rock.
I currently own a stumpy Evo alloy and since this bike came out I’ve been lusting for it. Fortunately, I’m semi-local to the Reeb shop in Lyons, Co. I was lucky enough to demo a steezl, and I must say it absolutely blew my mind. Coming from a really stiff alloy frame onto a more flexible steel front triangle made it feel like the limit was more forgiving. I’ve never had so many controlled two-wheeled drifts, let alone on something completely unfamiliar. Reeb consists of some of the friendliest, passionate, stoked bikers you’ll ever meet. Can’t wait to be able to support them in the hopefully near future!
Dario- I think your saddle and bars are broken you may want to fix those! Great in-depth article!
- Chase
By the way, this bike looks very good
Scale is also likely coming into play. They sell way more stumpy’s than Reeb with sell Steezls
I was stoked to pick up my new Steezl on Friday. Put several rides on it over the weekend, from jump/flow trails, steep tech descents to smooth Colorado Trail singletrack.
First thing that struck me was how quiet and composed the bike felt. It took no time to be immediately comfortable riding this bike. It is very easy to go fast, felt very planted and confident inspiring in corners. The 155mm rear travel feels bottomless, and felt just as plush and smooth as my 170mm travel YT Capra it is replacing. Climbing, it is very composed and the suspension feels very efficient. Even with the 3 settings on the Ohlins TTX2m.2 coil, I felt it climbed quite well wide open.
The craftsmanship and logical well thought out details are top notch. Honestly I can't say one negative thing about the frame, the build or the experience. It is 10% heavier than my carbon Capra with a similar build, but very reasonable compared to similar bikes and builds on the market today. I'm more than willing to sacrifice the weight for a superior ride quality, and hopefully significantly better build quality.
Are there other suspension variants? What secrets are you keeping from us?!
Where it's made also isn't really a factor, bad management or business decisions can plague companies that manufacture overseas as well. I think it's just coincidence GG was the first to go, there will likely be other small brands that manufacture overseas and see difficult times ahead due to excessive growth the last two years followed by the cooling off of demand and the economy.
It could happen to them, of course, but just my observation over having their bikes over the years, they run a leaner, more conservative company than GG did and will more likely ride out storms as a result. I wouldn't hesitate based on this alone.
"we are a family. All these 20 people working together with me, they are friends. For me, it's enough to steer that company in a way that we keep it a certain size. Keep our numbers in the black and not the red. Because all these guys, they have today families, wives, kids. I have a certain responsibility there. That's the target, not big growth. I feel almost alone in this. In the bicycle business I have seen many companies dying because they have the wrong vision, or the wrong target. They want to be the biggest, or make the most money . This is not our target."
m.pinkbike.com/news/from-the-top-karl-nicolai-on-gearboxes-geometry-and-how-his-company-found-its-niche.html
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The chart shows ~2.67 to ~2.27, which is fairly neutral and fairly linear only when compared to the typical progressive curves wanted for coil, not neutral nor linear in general.
However, that's NOT "starting ratio of 3.25" and NOT "high overall progression (29%)", as stated in the very next sentence.
Which is it, relatively neutral/linear or high progression?
That doesn't seem to be an option when configuring a bike. Looks like you have to go custom to select a chainstay length different from the stock sizing, but of course you should be able to do that with a custom build. So, it's not really up to the customer, as you're implying, for non-custom builds.
[The Reeb is soooooo good looking]