Review: Rossignol Heretic - Not Quite Ready for Prime Time
What do skis and bikes have in common? Not that much besides being toys for going down hills on. Either way, Rossignol makes both types of equipment and the Heretic is their 160mm enduro bike that uses a Horst-Link suspension design. The Heretic is the most aggressive model bike in the Rossignol fleet and has been raced under a camouflage paint scheme by their EWS race team, The Bandits, for the last two seasons.
Reasonable pricing and trusted components earned the French brand positive comments when they relaunched their consumer direct sales model and an all-new mountain bike lineup in March, 2022.
Reasonable pricing and trusted components earned the French brand positive comments when they relaunched their consumer direct sales model and an all-new mountain bike lineup in March, 2022.
Heretic Details
• Frame: 6061 aluminum
• Wheel sizes: XS, S 27.5" / M, L, XL 29"
• Horst-link suspension design
• Travel: 160 mm / 160 mm fork
• 64.5-degree head angle
• Chainstays: XS-S 435 mm / M-XL 445
• Size: XS, S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 16.11 kg / 35.52 lb
• Price: $4,699 USD
• rossignol.com
• Frame: 6061 aluminum
• Wheel sizes: XS, S 27.5" / M, L, XL 29"
• Horst-link suspension design
• Travel: 160 mm / 160 mm fork
• 64.5-degree head angle
• Chainstays: XS-S 435 mm / M-XL 445
• Size: XS, S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 16.11 kg / 35.52 lb
• Price: $4,699 USD
• rossignol.com
We tested their $4,699 USD Heretic XT, the top-tier model, that uses a full aluminum frame with a 160mm RockShox ZEB Ultimate fork. As the name suggests, the build kit is loaded with the range of Shimano XT components, from the cranks and cassette, all the way through to the center lock hubs and rotors.
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 | Rossignol looked to deliver with Heretic in a decent direct-to-consumer deal. Popular component choices and a straightforward alloy frame were appreciated by readers at the time of the launch. Unfortunately, a few frame members didn't hold up to the end of the bargain. |
Frame Details
The Heretic's aluminum frame is fairly basic - there isn't any groundbreaking new construction methods or suspension designs to be seen here. The dull grey color choice doesn’t do much to tell you it’s their top-spec enduro bike either, although I'll take a muted paint scheme over a garish one any day. Keep in mind though, the bike does cost half as much as some other bikes that use a similar parts spec.
All of the specifications are fairly common, such as a Universal Derailleur Hanger, 148 Boost hub spacing, and sufficient chainstay padding. Under the top tube are bosses to bolt a tool onto and the frame has plenty of clearance inside the front triangle for a 650mL water bottle.
Following the internal cable routing down from the head tube, you'll see that the dropper post line takes a detour outside the BB junction. The brake and derailleur housing exit the BB junction below the main pivot and fasten to the chainstays. I had to add another zip tie on the seat stay to keep the housing out of the spokes and tapping the frame on descents.
Geometry
Rossignol has done their homework when it comes to scaling the Heretic sizing by building the XS and S bikes to roll on dual 27.5 wheels, whereas the three larger frames use a full 29er setup. Those five sizes start with reaches of 422 millimeters for the XS frame and grow exponentially; 432, 450, 477, and then 500mm for the XL. On our size L test bike, the seat tube length measured 460mm, which is quite high in comparison to other brands.
The smaller wheeled bikes run on a 435mm rear center and the 29ers are 10mm longer. The BB drop is also 10mm in difference, sitting at 20 and 30mm respectfully. All of the frames use the same seat and head tube angles.
There are no flip-chips to alter the geometry for a mullet setup, although some team members used a customer rocker link to achieve this. That places the seat and head tube angles at a reasonable 77 and contemporary 64.5 degrees.
Rossignol, like a few other brands, also scale the crank and stem length to the size of the frame, which, in my mind, doesn't add up. The stem is related to the steering dynamics which is dictated to the head angle. Why would the rider on the XS frame want faster steering from a shorter 40mm length stem? Especially considering that bike uses a quicker handling 27.5” front wheel. They will most likely cut the bars narrower than the rider on the XL frame, further speeding up the steering.
A similar thought goes along with the longer cranks on longer frames. As the front center grows, the break over angle - basically the chainring clearance - decreases making the rider more prone to pedal strikes, yet longer 175mm cranks are spec’d here.
Those two component choices are more of a specification talking point but are directly related to the geometry. Again, we’ve seen other brands follow a similar scaling pattern and that could be the next candidate for a deep dive article.
Suspension Design
The bike uses a Horst-Link suspension design, with the rearmost pivot located below the rear axle and the brake caliper mounted to the seat stay to help isolate the braking and pedalling forces. What did surprise me was the short 185 x 55mm trunnion mount shock. Squeezing 160mm out of the shorter Super Deluxe air shock means it has to work harder to control forces versus a 62.5 or 60mm shock that is traditionally used for that much rear wheel travel.
| Specifications | ||
| Release Date | 2022 | |
| Price | $4699 | |
| Travel | 160 | |
| Rear Shock | RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate | |
| Fork | RockShox ZEB Ultimate 160mm | |
| Headset | FSA No.57 | |
| Cassette | Shimano XT 12spd | |
| Crankarms | Shimano XT 170 | |
| Chainguide | E-Thirteen TRS | |
| Bottom Bracket | Shimano XT | |
| Rear Derailleur | Shimano XT 12spd | |
| Chain | Shimano XT 12spd | |
| Shifter Pods | Shimano XT 12spd | |
| Handlebar | E-Thirteen Plus 35 | |
| Stem | E-Thirteen Plus 35 x 50mm | |
| Grips | Rossignol | |
| Brakes | Shimano XT 203mm CL rotors | |
| Hubs | Shimano XT | |
| Rim | E-Thirteen TRS Plus | |
| Tires | Maxxis EXO+ Assegai/ DHR II, MaxxTerra | |
| Seat | WTB Silverado | |
| Seatpost | KS LEV Integra 150mm | |
Specifications
Scouring over the components list, the Heretic is of great value for $4,699 USD with a full Shimano XT build kit and RockShox Ultimate suspension. The entire drivetrain is of the Deore XT level, including the hubs which engage about every seven degrees.
If that's out your budget, there are two other Heretic price points that are even easier on the wallet at $2,799 for a Shimano Deore build kit, or $3,599 USD for a SLX build.
Where SRAM or Shimano parts aren’t used on the Heretic XT, E-thirteen takes care of the rims and controls. The KS LEV Integra seat post does the job but our size large was fitted with only 150 mm of drop. That could mean that some riders on a size large will have to fiddle with the post insertion height for each climb and descent or replace it with a longer option from the start.
Test Bike Setup
Keeping air in the rear tire was also a challenge as I would also find out on my way up the road on my initial ride. Thankfully, I had brought along a pump, because I needed to stop multiple times along the ride to increase the pressure. I would later discover that rim tape was installed incorrectly, allowing air to escape.
Neither are expensive fixes, but for a bike that comes from a consumer direct brand the bike shouldn’t need this much attention on day one.
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Unboxing and setting up the Rossignol Heretic from its consumer direct packaging was straightforward. There are instructions included for those less familiar with wrenching on bikes too. It’s a catch twenty-two with packaging; too much can seem wasteful, but there’s nothing worse than the bike arriving damaged from too little. I do think less bubble wrap could be used here, given that the bike was well secured inside the ginormous cardboard box.
Getting the suspension balanced on the Heretic right took longer than expected. At 30% sag the shock dipped into the initial part of the travel swiftly, so I increased the pressure to balance out the fork setup. Bumping up the pressure to 220 psi resulted in 28% sag and improved the front to rear balance. I landed on 90 psi in the Zeb, placed a 5mm spacer under the 35mm rise bar and called it a day.
There were a couple annoying bits about the setup. On the first climb I realized I needed the seat a touch higher. Although I tried to slide the housing through the frame to provide slack, the bends in the routing caused it to bind and I ended up with too much slack in the system.
Getting the suspension balanced on the Heretic right took longer than expected. At 30% sag the shock dipped into the initial part of the travel swiftly, so I increased the pressure to balance out the fork setup. Bumping up the pressure to 220 psi resulted in 28% sag and improved the front to rear balance. I landed on 90 psi in the Zeb, placed a 5mm spacer under the 35mm rise bar and called it a day.
There were a couple annoying bits about the setup. On the first climb I realized I needed the seat a touch higher. Although I tried to slide the housing through the frame to provide slack, the bends in the routing caused it to bind and I ended up with too much slack in the system.
Neither are expensive fixes, but for a bike that comes from a consumer direct brand the bike shouldn’t need this much attention on day one.
Climbing
Over the last few years, there’s been a strong convergence on geometry and anti-squat values for enduro bikes and the Heretic partially meets that trend. The Heretic features the commonly found 77-degree seat tube angle that places the rider in a comfortable position, but there is a heavy onus on the shock lockout to negate the rear shock from diving through the travel under pedalling forces.
Pedalling performance out of the saddle is less than ideal, and making your way through uphill rock gardens is challenging. You want the climb switch open so the suspension can harness traction, but the minute you push on the cranks to pedal kick forwards or up a stepped section of trail the balance of the bike is greatly affected. I’d describe this as swimming in the rear suspension. There’s simply a lot of movement, so while it’s very smooth across small bumps on the trail, any body inputs to push the bike up and over an obstacle saps energy as the shock oscillates.
When the climb switch is in use, the Heretic is an effective climber that can negotiate tight switchback corners and keeps the cranks clear of any obstacles on the trail, however, I did find another object to tag my feet on - the chainstays. They have a large outward bend near the rear pivots and the rubber protector also hangs in the way. Heel clearance is not a problem I normally encounter, so it was surprising to have this occur, especially considering that the Heretic doesn’t even use SuperBoost.
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Over the last few years, there’s been a strong convergence on geometry and anti-squat values for enduro bikes and the Heretic partially meets that trend. The Heretic features the commonly found 77-degree seat tube angle that places the rider in a comfortable position, but there is a heavy onus on the shock lockout to negate the rear shock from diving through the travel under pedalling forces.
Pedalling performance out of the saddle is less than ideal, and making your way through uphill rock gardens is challenging. You want the climb switch open so the suspension can harness traction, but the minute you push on the cranks to pedal kick forwards or up a stepped section of trail the balance of the bike is greatly affected. I’d describe this as swimming in the rear suspension. There’s simply a lot of movement, so while it’s very smooth across small bumps on the trail, any body inputs to push the bike up and over an obstacle saps energy as the shock oscillates.
When the climb switch is in use, the Heretic is an effective climber that can negotiate tight switchback corners and keeps the cranks clear of any obstacles on the trail, however, I did find another object to tag my feet on - the chainstays. They have a large outward bend near the rear pivots and the rubber protector also hangs in the way. Heel clearance is not a problem I normally encounter, so it was surprising to have this occur, especially considering that the Heretic doesn’t even use SuperBoost.
Descending
Much like the uphill characteristics of the Heretic, the same is true when you point the bike downhill - there is a lot of movement from the suspension. The suspension does track the ground quite well and the thick rubber chainstay protector keeps noise to a minimum. That Horst-link suspension is a progressive system with plenty of movement at the beginning of the stroke that soaks up a lot of the high-frequency chatter and the air shock ramps up sufficiently for big hucks.
That’s all well and good, that is until you apply the brakes and the rear suspension extends, pushing weight onto the front wheel when you least want it there. Although the rear wheel can remain active under braking, I find the change in geometry to be more problematic.
Since the braking forces pitched the bike forward and the head angle wasn’t the slackest to begin with, I toyed with a 170mm fork for a couple of rides and found that it warded off that forward movement while braking. I actually preferred the balance of the 160mm fork since the rear suspension is progressive and changes the dynamic geometry quickly as it reaches the sag point. This action would suit someone who prefers a softer, more progressive fork than I do.
The suspension rise became the least of my concerns when a loud chattering began in the suspension linkage after a fair amount of vertical descending and hard cornering. Looking at the rear triangle construction, where there's small-diameter tubing and no seat stay yoke, or cross brace, I wasn’t surprised when I found that the seatstay/rocker link pivot had given up the ghost. Even though the pivot hardware stayed tight, the bearings ovalized their seats. Whether that was due to the amount of flex in the stays or just poor machining tolerances, I could push the bearings out by hand.
In their defense, Rossignol intentionally built the rear triangle to be laterally compliant after receiving feedback from their enduro team. Opinions about frame flex versus body fatigue can be a personal preference at such a high level of racing, but that shouldn't lead to frame reliability issues.
Rossignol sent out a new rear triangle and I read into the 5-year limited warranty that would earn any original purchaser the same replacement frame components. The replacement rear triangle and links arrived with the bearings installed and new hardware. Mounting the parts was straightforward because the housing is routed externally, but I noticed more problems when the trunnion mount didn’t align with the shock. There was even play in the box-fresh chainstay pivot and a replacement rubber chainstay bumper was missing.
In this day and age, even at this price point, that’s tough to look past. Bikes like the Specialized Status are much less expensive, at $3,000 USD, but are built to higher standard. Although it wasn’t a catastrophic failure, it's an issue that shouldn't occur in such a short period of time (or ever, for that matter).
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Much like the uphill characteristics of the Heretic, the same is true when you point the bike downhill - there is a lot of movement from the suspension. The suspension does track the ground quite well and the thick rubber chainstay protector keeps noise to a minimum. That Horst-link suspension is a progressive system with plenty of movement at the beginning of the stroke that soaks up a lot of the high-frequency chatter and the air shock ramps up sufficiently for big hucks.
That’s all well and good, that is until you apply the brakes and the rear suspension extends, pushing weight onto the front wheel when you least want it there. Although the rear wheel can remain active under braking, I find the change in geometry to be more problematic.
Since the braking forces pitched the bike forward and the head angle wasn’t the slackest to begin with, I toyed with a 170mm fork for a couple of rides and found that it warded off that forward movement while braking. I actually preferred the balance of the 160mm fork since the rear suspension is progressive and changes the dynamic geometry quickly as it reaches the sag point. This action would suit someone who prefers a softer, more progressive fork than I do.
The suspension rise became the least of my concerns when a loud chattering began in the suspension linkage after a fair amount of vertical descending and hard cornering. Looking at the rear triangle construction, where there's small-diameter tubing and no seat stay yoke, or cross brace, I wasn’t surprised when I found that the seatstay/rocker link pivot had given up the ghost. Even though the pivot hardware stayed tight, the bearings ovalized their seats. Whether that was due to the amount of flex in the stays or just poor machining tolerances, I could push the bearings out by hand.
In their defense, Rossignol intentionally built the rear triangle to be laterally compliant after receiving feedback from their enduro team. Opinions about frame flex versus body fatigue can be a personal preference at such a high level of racing, but that shouldn't lead to frame reliability issues.
Rossignol sent out a new rear triangle and I read into the 5-year limited warranty that would earn any original purchaser the same replacement frame components. The replacement rear triangle and links arrived with the bearings installed and new hardware. Mounting the parts was straightforward because the housing is routed externally, but I noticed more problems when the trunnion mount didn’t align with the shock. There was even play in the box-fresh chainstay pivot and a replacement rubber chainstay bumper was missing.
In this day and age, even at this price point, that’s tough to look past. Bikes like the Specialized Status are much less expensive, at $3,000 USD, but are built to higher standard. Although it wasn’t a catastrophic failure, it's an issue that shouldn't occur in such a short period of time (or ever, for that matter).
Even though the pivot bolts stayed snug, the bearings began to wander in and out of the machined seat in the rocker link.
Technical Report
E-thirteen stem: The machined block can often be a bland or bold piece of equipment, depending on your tastes. Those low-profile clamps that sweep around the back of the E-thirteen Plus 35 stem make it one of my favorites on the market. I don’t hit my knees on my stem as often as I did when we rode short, 26” wheeled bikes, but I appreciate the clean lines. E-thirteen also uses T25 torx bolts that are less likely to round out.
Shimano XT Hubs: The Japanese giant doesn’t deviate from their ideas quickly. These XT hubs still use their preferred cup and cone bearing arrangement that allows you to adjust the preload on the bearings. The 7-degree engagement was totally adequate and the noise from the hub has a subtle, unobtrusive buzz, similar to DT Swiss’ Star Ratchet system. Truing the wheels did require some patience as the spoke heads turned in the hub flanges though.
Shimano brakes: It's old news by now, but the wandering bite point issue came back to haunt us, even with a solid bleed and centered pistons. I’m not sure how or why it happens, but Shimano brakes also seem to become contaminated much more often than other brakes. The pads were swapped out with freshies and the rotors were cleaned, but the lack of bite and squealing soon returned.
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How Does It Compare?
When the bike was up and running, the Heretic isn’t the most aggressive bike out there and rides somewhat like a long-legged trail bike with the stock 160mm fork. It’s more conservative compared to the other enduro bikes that I’ve ridden over the last two years.
The Cotic RocketMax primarily uses steel tubes, with the exception of the chainstay, placing the Heretic’s all-aluminum frame in the same ballpark weight. One substantial difference was the robustness of the RocketMax - none of the hardware on that frame even flinched.
There was also a strong, secure feeling about Cotic’s enduro bike that always begged to push harder. Less rise under braking and a 63.5-degree head angle earned it plenty of confidence to push harder on track. The small bump compliance and noise damping give the Heretic an edge in those areas, but that’s about all I can credit the Rossignol for.
Although the geometry is a touch conservative, namely the head tube angle, it’s not totally out in left field. Improvements could be made to the suspension kinematics to calm down the braking influences and reduce the progression for a more settled ride
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E-thirteen stem: The machined block can often be a bland or bold piece of equipment, depending on your tastes. Those low-profile clamps that sweep around the back of the E-thirteen Plus 35 stem make it one of my favorites on the market. I don’t hit my knees on my stem as often as I did when we rode short, 26” wheeled bikes, but I appreciate the clean lines. E-thirteen also uses T25 torx bolts that are less likely to round out.
Shimano XT Hubs: The Japanese giant doesn’t deviate from their ideas quickly. These XT hubs still use their preferred cup and cone bearing arrangement that allows you to adjust the preload on the bearings. The 7-degree engagement was totally adequate and the noise from the hub has a subtle, unobtrusive buzz, similar to DT Swiss’ Star Ratchet system. Truing the wheels did require some patience as the spoke heads turned in the hub flanges though.
Shimano brakes: It's old news by now, but the wandering bite point issue came back to haunt us, even with a solid bleed and centered pistons. I’m not sure how or why it happens, but Shimano brakes also seem to become contaminated much more often than other brakes. The pads were swapped out with freshies and the rotors were cleaned, but the lack of bite and squealing soon returned.
Rossignol Heretic
Cotic RocketMax
How Does It Compare?
When the bike was up and running, the Heretic isn’t the most aggressive bike out there and rides somewhat like a long-legged trail bike with the stock 160mm fork. It’s more conservative compared to the other enduro bikes that I’ve ridden over the last two years.
The Cotic RocketMax primarily uses steel tubes, with the exception of the chainstay, placing the Heretic’s all-aluminum frame in the same ballpark weight. One substantial difference was the robustness of the RocketMax - none of the hardware on that frame even flinched.
There was also a strong, secure feeling about Cotic’s enduro bike that always begged to push harder. Less rise under braking and a 63.5-degree head angle earned it plenty of confidence to push harder on track. The small bump compliance and noise damping give the Heretic an edge in those areas, but that’s about all I can credit the Rossignol for.
Although the geometry is a touch conservative, namely the head tube angle, it’s not totally out in left field. Improvements could be made to the suspension kinematics to calm down the braking influences and reduce the progression for a more settled ride
Pros
+ Well gathered components package for Shimano fans
+ Supple suspension
Cons
- Braking shifts the rider's weight forward heavily
- Flexy, unreliable frame construction
- Seat tube is long for the frame size
Pinkbike's Take
| Competing with the main players in the industry for mid-priced bikes is surely challenging, but when you stamp your logo on the frame, that’s the last piece of the pie that should crumble. Rossignol could have been in the running for Value Bike of the Year winner with the Heretic XT if the frame was reliable. It’s a shame that such a well priced, widely-available bike didn’t live up to the basic needs of a modern enduro bike. |
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I can tell you in my Canadian experience I've owned 3 GT's, known people who raced them, but never saw one outside of that circle. After 5 fall/winter months in Lyon, haven't seen one here either. And commenting about ESL based solely on a internet user's handle is bad form.
So is it really worth mentioning exponential growth to a power of 1.0039?
The Bandits? A less organized group than the Syndicate and less threatening than The Mob.
IE: short people can't move their hands and feet as far for a given range of movement from the associated joints, so a bike that allows for a full range of inputs with less absolute movement of hands and feet is pretty nice.
Interesting that you've identified the XT build as a pro, but highlighted two specific issues/challenges connected directly to the XT parts (brakes and spoke/hub interface).
Editing could use some work- extra zip ties to keep zip ties out of the spokes and Deore builds for both $2799 or $3599... unless this is a new marketing model- don't overwhelm customers with spec choices, just let them choose from different prices for the same stuff.
Swiss made Rossignol skis had a circular Swiss flag in the tip.
The true logo for Rossignol has always been the stylized capital R with a circle.
Kids these days……
Rooster or die. Get out of here with that stupid circle R!!!!
Not bike related but could not let that one sit….
Wrong - study history of manufacturing and marketing.
Equipe de France and that logo is a real source of pride for the French.
Besides, Rossignol skis has the circled R clearly on the base at the tips.
On most current Rossi skis the bird is nowhere to be found.
The Rooster is/was displayed by Trappaur, Heschung, Ramy, Moncler and many others.
Anyway, go get your current bike dirty in that PNW mud.
My main point is that it’s a made in France logo.
And yes, some Rossignol skis are still made in France so they get to use the Rooster.
Proof:
longskistruck.com/products/vintage-dynamic-vr17-antique-snow-skis-for-sale
Decal right in the middle.
Also used by Kerma poles and others.
For an Asian made product to sport this logo it’s kinda off.
Could you put some numbers on the anti-rise value? Cos I find it hard to believe that any bike these days would actually extend under braking. It's difficult to tell if this is a genuine issue with the frame design, or just rider preference.
Unreal value. No wonder my used bike isn't selling haha
27.5 front wheel, air shock with volume reducers. Don't be afraid to tune your bikes people.
Keep in mind that wheel size in itself does very little for you unless you are into big tricks and spins. The thing that wheel size affects is geometry. Because a 27.5 rear end requires shorter chainstays than a 29, its going to be more agile.
Bringing the front end closer through a steeper HTA will do the same thing.
Yet, in the Airdrop review, the high leverage ratios (3.1 starting and 2.85 at sag versus 2.9 average here) were praised as "happy to get moving whilst in its travel"
150x50 and 160x55 is pretty common nowadays, and modern shocks seem to be up to the game, especially considering that lighter tunes are becoming popular.
This lesson was learned years ago, small shocks for long travel makes it more difficult to adjust and creates more heat.
160x55 is more in line with a trail bike…
So you needed more slack to move the seat, but bends caused it to bind, so you got too much slack because of the binding? I don't understand: if it bound up, wouldn't that mean you couldn't slide it through enough and would not have enough slack to move the seat at all?
Or you overshot pushing it in and it bound up so hard you couldn't pull the housing back out the front and there was extra slack inside the frame? Who cares as long as there was enough at the front to turn the bars?
Maybe someone who rides 20 times a year, those poor tolerances become a problem after 5 years. Someone who rides 200 times a year, maybe thats a problem in 6 months. That was kind of what i was thinking anyway
Shimano is wicked, if you love to haul on the brakes and skid down with less control.
Have you ever messed with real brakes on a race car? Could easily give the Brakes a heap of power but thats useless as theyd just lock... any high level Racer will tell you brakes arnt all about power.
Astro is from Taiwan, I doubt that they missed the chance to go to China, Myanmar, Vietnam to save some €€€
What spec Deore builds come on the other trims? SLX? Base Deore?
The team uses a *custom* rocker link for 27.5 wheels, yeah?
The wandering bite point might be affected by brake line routing. If you tip the bike into a corner and the hose sits higher than the reservoir, the bite point dives. I’ve had that issue only on one (of a dozen) Shimano-equipped bikes.
Sounds like the sizing/geo was focused around rider size and ergonomics versus on-trail practicality, perhaps?
Also sounds like Matt isn’t the target demographic / riding feel for the bike. The design ethos on this bike seems a bit more up my alley
Component sizing according to rider height is something that came over from road bikes and there is sense to it, but the different demands of MTB require a different approach to component sizing. It is definitely a subject for an article as there are a lot of competing factors that determine how to apply scaled component sizing (if at all).
Me, I haven't tried either, because my brakes have never had that problem.
IMeasureStuff: It can work. Like George Costanza, there is no lie because I believe it. "Santa Cruz makes good skateboards and bikes".
boopiejones: No. Santa Cruz bike people don't make skateboards.
IMeasureStuff: Well, there you go. The stuff I didn't measure at all and just typed out...I had no idea.
And these guys have no room to complain when the dust settles and they’re stuck with unsold bikes.
IDK how they justify that price. Why should the consumer be stuck with the bill for a component group that doesn’t belong on that frame?
But the bike guys didn’t seem to grok that. Instead they just threw some tubes together while looking at a “modern” geometry chart.
I bet the ski guys could have done better.
Probably owned by some conglomerate behemoth by now that finds X amount of failures at that price point acceptable.
You heard it here first.
I and loads of my friends have used a variety of Shimano 4 pot brakes over the years - Saint, Deore, Zee, XT and SLX and none of us has ever had this issue. The one common factor is that we all use the same ex World Cup DH mechanic to bleed them,. This can just be a coincidence.
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