Descending Coming up with geometry numbers that work well in a wide range of situations without making too many compromises can be tricky, but the Wild seems to hit the sweet spot. The 63.5-degree head angle (with a 170mm fork) is slack enough for the steepest steeps, and the 448mm chainstays provide plenty of stability without feeling unwieldy on tighter section of trail.
The concept of e-bike racing still seems silly to me, but after my time on the Wild I'd put this electric machine on my short list of bikes I'd want to roll up to a starting line on. It feels incredibly composed at higher speeds while descending, where the tall front end and slack head angle put the rider into a secure, ready for anything position.
There's a punching bag-like quality to the way the Wild absorbs obstacles – it seems to relish high-speed smashing, and can withstand some serious hits without getting hung up or knocked off line. Bigger jumps and drops didn't pose any problems, and even when I used all of the travel there wasn't any unwanted clanking or harshness at the end of the stroke.
I didn't ride the previous version of the Wild, so I can't comment on the frame stiffness difference between the two, but I can say that this model feels extremely solid, in a good way. It doesn't feel quite as plush or bottomless as the Ibis Oso, but it does strike a great balance between being soft enough off the top to take the edge of chattery sections of trail while retaining enough support to avoid using the travel too quickly. It's the sort of bike that makes you want to go fast, just to see what'll happen, one of my favorite traits in any bike, motorized or not.
The Wild doesn't feel overly heavy, even though its actual weight is a few pounds heavier than Orbea originally claimed when it was first released – I have a hunch that 46-pound weight was for a size small with carbon wheels and silly light tires. In real life, the 50 pound weight with DH tires and aluminum wheels for the version I tested feels appropriate, and it's in-line with bikes like the Santa Cruz Bullit, Transition Repeater.
What's the Best Value?If I was on a budget I wouldn't be shopping for an eMTB, but that doesn't mean it's not worth considering which models present the best value. Personally, I'd be looking at the aluminum Wild H10, which is $7,034 USD. The parts spec is solid, with a 160mm Fox Performance fork and Float X shock, Shimano SLX cassette, XT derailleur, and Deore 4-piston brakes. I'd spring for the DH-casing tires and call it good, although I'd also consider budgeting an extra $100 or so for a 170mm air spring, or treating myself and adding $369 to the price to get the bike equipped with a 170mm Fox 38 Grip2 fork.
Mine is to accept that age comes with wear and tear. I am now 53, and for sure I can not do what I could when I was younger. I did a 100km+ mixed gravel/mtb trails ride yesterday, in a little above 5 hours. I would have been faster in my younger years, and I would probably have skipped the café stop with apple pie. But who cares? I'm not in a race. I had a blast, that's all that matters.
And if I can no longer do such distances, or ride slower, then hopefully I'll just enjoy what I still can do. I'm pretty sure a 2 hour ride will feel like a 'big day' when I'm 65, and that's fine with me.
Tell me you are an e-biker without telling me you are an e-biker.
Seriously though, that just screams decadence and, like others have pointed out, in a nutshell is basically everything that’s wrong with this sport.
Ps *build quality*? Take it to your local bike shop?
You are welcome
One second now, two seconds next year, no pedaling needed in a few years from now.
E-bikes are ruining everything that made cycling so f*cking awesome in the first place.
1) Is there a max capacity of battery you can take along on a race?
2) I understand that there is a "boost mode" which exceeds the 250W assistance for a "short" while. Is there a max output to this boost mode and is there max duration to this "short" while?
3) Now there is this "overrun" thing which keeps providing assistance for up to one second after the rider stops pedaling. Seems to me that if you're ratcheting up a steep tech climb, you'll just end up with a steady output to the rear wheel. Is that correct? Seems to me like this removes part of the fun from technical climbing (and climbing is pretty boring if you remove the tech). Is there a max limit to how long this overrun is allowed to be (in competition)? And also, is there an "emergency button" of some kind when you suddenly don't want the overrun? I can imagine at times you need to power through one section but then ease off to not smash into the next obstacle and you don't have time to go through menus to change modes.
Thanks for the clarifications!
And before anybody asks I do a ton of trail maintenance (about 80 days since I bought it).
>What's not to love?
50lbs that's what.
And there's the cost...
When battery technology improves enough to remove the massive weight penalty what you're saying will make perfect sense. Right now though you're listing only the positives while pretending none of the negatives exist
I have that and besides the mid-support it's one of my least favorite forks to date. So harsh.
If you have, say, an hour and a half available for a ride, why can't you go for a ride on a normal bike in that time?
Let me quote your own comment directly underneath your 'salty boomer' comment:
"ill look into it, honestly haven't been super stoked on my Lyrik ultimate even after a month tuning it with a shockwiz."
I'd say a month of tuning your suspension (and still not getting it right) would count is overcomplicating. I rode my rigid 1994 mtb for 5 hours yesterday, no tuning necessary.
An ebike is just a self shuttle lift device.
The overwhelming majority of riders I bump into show nothing but interest in ebikes with many considering their first purchase. In fact, there are now so many on the trails we ride in Scotland and Wales that sometimes, they're actually more the norm. Otherwise, at the park, we're all enjoying an uplift.
I'm with you - fit as much riding as you can into a busy life. The more this annoys the hating dullards, the more pleasurable it all is.
(I've already heard more stories about uncharged batteries than I can recall ever hearing about derailleur cables breaking on a ride)
And this bike delivers!! And I can do sessions or laps ☺️
If your style of riding doesn't suit this class of riding, cool....go do your thing.
BUT each time I'm setting it up for a customer, seeing all to those cables run through the upper headset bearing and the hassle / clumsyness of the stem & spacers it makes me wanna cry / vomit.
WHY ORBEAAAAA WHYYYYY. Also the new Rise and OIZ?!?!?!?!?!?
Seems kind of a ridiculous thing to say. But hey why not make biking even more elitist. And value doesn't equate to budget. Value compares apples to apples.
What if you are shopping for an eMTB on a budget? There loads of options. That doesn't stop $11K being absurd.
A) Dealing with the elements has never really been a complaint. It's the pain of working on the bike.
B) Why is this any better (re: the elements) than through the top cap? They still decided to spec stainless bearings, so it can't be that great.
C) That's SO MUCH effort and work just to "remove holes from the frame", which was an already solved problem. So much solved that companies would put extra holes in chainstays just to run a cable/hose 6 inches so they could check off a bullet point of "full internal routing". So dumb.
The bike works well on our local trails and will also be perfect for weekend trips to self shuttle bike parks this summer.
And only getting better...and I'm not talking surons.
But ya..wna have all the toys.
Calling out one component as unethical while everything else also is, is silly.
The outfit in NZ bringing Orbea in when I owned a shop was basically the best performer of all of my bike suppliers when it came to post sales support, not just that but the best performer by a very long way.
The worst supplier of basically anything, (also by an absurd amount) was Shimano NZ.
I'm was stoked that the Wild is a Bosch unit, I know that unlike the EP8's, in NZ Bosch will get it turned around in a week if there's a problem unit..... Shimano? Well 6 months was the norm for a couple of years (sometimes longer).
Orbea USA is part of Mondragon.
Haven't had any issues getting problems taken care of.
They DHL stuff from Spain faster than many companies send things UPS ground.
Ship things DHL super fast to make things right.
Yeah, I don't love the online retailer presence either, but who's not selling through DTC or third party these days.
Source: Orbea Retailer
I am looking for a long bolt-on guard for a 38 and it looks like you have it!
Thanks
That is NOT a bad thing. It also does NOT rely on extra batteries!
Shouldn't we be listing it for what it is? Not what is a small part of it.
By the way, many comments about the price. It goes as low as $5600 for the aluminum version.
are ppl actually insane ?