Maxxis, Schwalbe, and in more recent times Continental, have a firm grip on the high-end tire market. In fact, it's to the extent that their model names become almost ubiquitous. Tires from other brands will often be described as a Minion copy or a Magic Mary, whether or not it flatters or they're happy with the comparison. In recent years, Vittoria have been making an earnest push into the high-end mountain biking sector. Whether through new models in the range, updating casing or compounds, or sponsoring some of the world's biggest events, they're certainly giving it a go.
Mazza Race Details• 29 or 27.5" in 2.4 or 2.6"
• Exceptionally soft Graphene & Silica compound
• Reinforced casing across the breadth of tire
• Actual weight: 1340g (29")
• Price: $89.99 USD
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vittoria.com It's been several years since the release of the Mazza, and the Mazza Race uses the same tread pattern and spacing. Instead, the key difference is in compound and casing. This tire uses a 60 TPI casing. This uses thicker threads in a lower quantity, and it represents something of a departure from the idea that has been perforated in recent years that a higher TPI will give a better tracking and a more supple tire.
As for the compound, it's just the one throughout. Vittoria has a history of eking the life out of their soft rubber by using graphene. This goes even further by using both graphene and silica. The rubber is incredibly soft, to say the least. The Mazza Race has a reinforced layer across the entire tire and a further additional protective insert that sits across the tread of the tire itself, as well as an anti-flat insert on the bead of the aramid bead.
DetailsSo what is it? Is it a Minion? Well, there are elements of that. However, I would say this a more of a Minion and cut spike hybrid. Simply put, there is a lot of canvas on show with Mazza. This might be good for mud shedding and loose surfaces, but a more open tread can introduce a vague feeling when initiating turns, as well as being more vulnerable to rim damage or punctures. Compared to the standard Mazza, the Mazza race has a slightly more open tread.
The tires aim to negate that in two ways. Firstly, these tires are exceptionally soft. Each lug is like a gummy bear that's been left in the sun. At the start of the test, I wondered if these would be prone to being ripped straight off the canvas but I can report no such incidents.
As for rim damage, the design of the sturdy single-ply sidewall aims to protect against that eventuality, not least by being relatively portly. At 1340 grams each, the weight of these tires combined with the incredibly soft compound, might not be an enticing prospect for all-day pedalers. Curiously, Vittoria don't provide any details on what that means in terms of the durometer of the rubber.
These tires aim to establish themselves as the highest-performance option for gravity-focused riders in the range. A range that includes the 900-gram Trail casing (29x2.4"), and the 1300-gram 2-ply Enduro casing. It also represents something of a departure for the brand in terms of the technology utilized. Normally, Vittoria tires are known for their 4C makeup. This combines, you guessed it, four different rubber compounds throughout the tire, to tailor each knob, be it center or side, to the task at hand. They can then have firmer bases with softer outer layers. When this is combined with relatively complex siping patterns, it can give tires that hook up, don't deform too much, and roll well.
In the past, I have been very impressed with 4C tires that I have used from Vittoria in a variety of casings and tread patterns. The Enduro Race tire uses one super-super-soft compound throughout. The compound used is softer than any of those features in the 4C models.
PerformanceLet's start with the main point of these tires. They're intended to be exceptionally grippy for true enduro trails, and do they deliver?
This tire has exceptional grip under braking on sheet-like rocks or slabs. However, I would say that the same thing that can make it excel in those situations is the same thing that can undermine them in other instances. The Mazza Race, thanks to the softness of the rubber, can offer levels of grip and deforming at slow speeds that other tires can't come anywhere near to. If you want something that will give consistently high levels of grip then these are very impressive. The problem is when the speeds are higher and there are more inputs or twisting forces going through those exceptionally soft lugs.
At higher speeds, especially through turns, it can feel like the lugs just twist or roll. While this isn't the worst feeling ever, and it can give a very positive feeling in medium-load turns, it can also quickly breach a threshold and the tire goes from conforming to squirming. On the front, I have no complaints and I didn't feel I was ever getting the drawbacks of the soft compounds, while still enjoying the positives. On the rear, however, it was a thin line between carving a turn and feeling like you were going to rip the tire off the rim.
If you could isolate these attributes away, I would say that it's a very confident turner across the tread, going from edge to edge consistently. It's an okay braker, but compared to something like an Assegai or Krypotal Front it lacks the large braking paddle that's made up of center, transfer and edge knobs.
The softness of this tire could make it a very good candidate for the front and it would pair excellently with a 4C Enduro Mazza on the rear.
So, is it simply too grippy? It's so hard to say. The element of squirming only came when leaning, so was far more present in higher-speed bike park trails with built-up banked turns with positive cambers. The rest of the time, on more natural trails where there isn't the same lateral load going through the bike, the tire did give a very good grip.
For me though, I think you choose to run a 1300-gram tire for a reason, and that reason is support. For all the grip on the Mazza Race, it excels in places where you don't need such a heavy tire in the first place.
Some of this instability should also be laid at the door of the sidewall. Vittoria, for this tire, has included a APF (anti-pinch flat) insert around the rim but it is markedly thinner than what you might find in other tires. Typically this insert is an inch-or-so long piece of material that sits between the plys of rubber in the sidewall and not only helps support the tire when under extreme load, but also helps protect the rim in harsh compressions. While it is present with the Mazza, I question its effectiveness at helping protect the rim and stabilize the tire.
Cutaway of the Mazza Race sidewall, left, and a Maxxis Doubledown casing.
To try and demonstrate this, I cut up two tires. On the left you can see a cutaway of the Mazza Race, and on the right of a Maxxis DHR2 Doubledown. You can see the effects of the butyl rubber insert in the Maxxis tire means that it mainly flexes where the sidewall ends and the tread begins. On the Mazza, which instead has a thinner and more flexible insert, it doesn't have this inflexion near the tread and I believe is a less robust option because of it. Note - the red part of the Vittoria tire is the anti-pinch flat insert; you can see the dark grey insert of the Maxxis if you look closely. Whilst the pictures might not look too dissimilar, the sidewalls feel markedly different when in your hands.
A comparison I would make would be suspension with a low spring rate and low compression damping. Yes, it might grip at lower speeds but as soon as you start to go faster you'd gladly trade some suppleness for some consistency and control under larger hits.
Durability & ReliablityYou measure some tire's lifespan in weeks, others in days. The Race compound on the Mazza's mean you can measure it in runs. You also don't have to look too far to see where the squirming sensation is coming from as each lug seems to deteriorate as much from the base as it does the edge. A few days in the park riding classic Creekside enduro trails will use up any tire, but that's not to say I wasn't taken aback but just how fast the Mazza Race's showed signs of wear. The tracks, which included trails such as Delayed Fuse and Misfire, are often used in Enduro races at a world series and regional level - and for good reason. If you looking for the style of feature or section you'd find on an enduro world cup race track, it's probably going to be in there. During testing, I typically ran either 26 or 27 psi, which would be matched front and rear.
There were also issues present within the test that can't be ignored. Typically, I wouldn't say I break many wheels. Or rather, when I do I can point to one large, Hail Mary style incident. During the first five rides on the Mazza Race tires I broke two carbon wheels. I can only speculate as to whether each rim would have failed with a different model on, but I have sliced tires on both rims previously and the rim has come away unscathed. It should be noted though that the tyre received no visible damage, and in the second instance still held air, although I did fit a fresh one when moving to a new wheel.
There was also an incident where the tire blew off the rim under medium compressions on the exit of a turn at 27 psi. I was surprised at this, to say the least. It's not something I've had happen for a very long time, and also not something that I have suffered with other tires on the same rims. It was terrifying and frustrating in equal measure, as I was left trying to slow the bike down in wet slippy tech. You could, I suppose, run extra tape to tighten up the fit of the tire. While I'm not against this, it's more of a racers trick and I don't think it's a reasonable expectation with new tires in 2023.
I think, and it's only my opinion, but these tires would be better with the added security of a thicker butyl insert. Yes, they would be heavier for it but the sheer grip delivered by this soft compound merits a sidewall that can keep up.
Pros
+ Incredible grip on rocks and slabs
+ Penetrates loose dirt and mud
Cons
- Soft compound wears very quickly
- Squirming under load
- Came off the rim while riding
Pinkbike's Take | I have always enjoyed Vittoria's 4C Mazza Enduro tire, in fact, it's one of my favorites. With this Race model, they haven't quite hit the same heights. I love the Mazza Enduro, and the consistency it offers in a range of situations - be it turning, braking, harsh compressions or rim protection. Sadly, with the exception of crawling down rock slabs at very low speeds, the new Race tire is inferior in every regard, including weight. The Mazza Race isn't without merit, and if you want something exceptionally grippy to put on the front then this would be a good candidate, but I think to make the most of the Mazza family it would be worth mixing with a 4C Enduro model on the rear. — Henry Quinney |
As a side note, I run Vittoria Barzo's on my XC bike and have been incredibly happy with them, the Graphene rubber on those has proved to be grippy and very hard wearing for me, especially for such a grippy compound and in a use case for me that also involves a reasonable amount of miles on tarmac as well as dirt- I got a year out of my first set and just installed another identical pair. I guess they took it a bit far with these race compound ones.
Add graphene i sufficient quantity to (almost)any polymer and you will increase strength and youngs modulus.
nothing to do with its monolayer structure and it doesnt need to be Layered precyse(dont know where this asumption comes from). the added graphe is oriantated in "all" directions so some of if will be stressed in the plane of the layer(the graphene it self). thats where the modified(improved) mechanical properties come from and thats the reason why the improvements are small compared to theorectical mechanical properties(adressing for the percentage in the polymere).
ps i got no idea if the qauntities used by vittoria lead to usefull performance benefits(in my experience(cnts mixed in epoxy) the necesarry quantity needed to improve mechanical properties (note that the tests im refering to did not use any fiber reinforcement) where quiet high regarding the price of those carbon particles(and considdring the price of tires)
a mono molecule compound. Just one molecule thick. Graphene is a compound not an element. Grahpene can be made in to nanotubules that are one molecule thick. Therefore still graphene. Anything else is, as you've described another carbon compound with very different properties.
Graphene is a single layer (monolayer) of carbon atoms, tightly bound in a hexagonal honeycomb lattice. It is an allotrope of carbon in the form of a plane of sp2-bonded atoms with a molecular bond length of 0.142 nanometres. Layers of graphene stacked on top of each other form graphite, with an interplanar spacing of 0.335 nanometres. The separate layers of graphene in graphite are held together by van der Waals forces, which can be overcome during exfoliation of graphene from graphite.
Graphene is the thinnest compound known to man at one atom thick, the lightest material known (with 1 square meter weighing around 0.77 milligrams), the strongest compound discovered (between 100-300 times stronger than steel with a tensile strength of 130 GPa and a Young's modulus of 1 TPa - 150,000,000 psi), the best conductor of heat at room temperature (at (4.84±0.44) × 10^3 to (5.30±0.4 × 10^3 W·m−1·K−1) and also the best conductor of electricity known (studies have shown electron mobility at values of more than 200,000 cm2·V−1·s−1). Other notable properties of graphene are its uniform absorption of light across the visible and near-infrared parts of the spectrum (πα ≈ 2.3%), and its potential suitability for use in spin transport.
if you want to understand more about polymeres with graphene in it there are plenty of papers(i think most are on duroplasts and not elastomeres(but i wouldguess its similar). the whole nano toughned think is growing and also electrical or sensory applications(later based on creating electricaly conductive polymeres) are being researched heavily for at least the last decade.
here are three exaples (i have not read them completly)
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359836819328914
www.nature.com/articles/srep04375
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/marc.201600226
1) dont stack graphene(one production procress is the other way around)
2)adding graphene does not mean it changes its molekular strucure (maybe some get rolled into cnts(but thats just a guess))
3)graphene is not used as a filler(Carbon black is)
and last youre production quantities /costs lacks a lot of numbers and is looking like from a non scientific article
how can you see that the shown powder is the same added to all tyres(which is carbon black)?
if the Price for graphen is at 2000USD/kg (which seams low to me but i got no klue) it would be a feasible to be used in tyres(adding a view percent to some of the tyre compounds(where it matters the most))
duroplasts are polymers as elastomers are too. thats the connection(maybee i should have made that clearer)
i send you 3 articles/papers in a commetn two are on epoxy one on elastomers (its about the influence of graphen on polymers)
PS you seam to have little knowlage on that topic but are big on asumptions. You make stuff up and than get mad about it towards the manuffacturer. thats strange behaviour.
PC/ABS is a rigid material so this study says nothing about what you get when you add graphene to a elastomeric polymer but this does show what can happen even with low fill levels for some additives.
"what have I made up?" "Essentially unless its layered precisely its just a filler", "raphene added to anything where it's molecular structure changes isn't graphene it's expensive filler", "It would be like taking carbon fibres in a woven matt then powdering them and saying you've added carbon fibre.....true in essence but also useless", "your suggesting we're all going to have a shiny set of new graphene enhanced epoxy derived tyres"
here are some of the statement you made up.
easy to research data? i dont know what youre refering to but if you mean the snipets of wikipedia(or comparable "source") which in no way is an adequate basis for youre asumptions with youre lack of background knowledge(the molekular structur really got you).
"Are you happy to blindly follow what the manufacturer has claimed?" who said that i do. what i dont do is asuming a scam on the basis of not understanding(you dont understand what Vittoria did so it must be a scam or hype or how ever you want to call it). I dont say that its not a scam. i see potential in using graphene in tires(Whether it makes economic sense i dont know) and i also dont know what ecaxtly vittoria did there(and they surely will not tell(not because its a big scam but because you dont give away technology))
"You've come forward with a lot of data but most of its not really relevant or if it is your not making it obvious." its pretty straight forward(just read the texts)(strange that you are not able to come to the right conclusion from your reserach(if its what you postet("Graphene is a single layer (monolayer) of carbon atoms, tightly bound in a hexagonal honeycomb lattice. It is an allotrope of carbon in the form of a plane of sp2-bonded atoms with a molecular bond length of 0.142 nanometres. Layers of graphene stacked on top of each other form graphite, with an interplanar spacing of 0.335 nanometres. The separate layers of graphene in graphite are held together by van der Waals forces, which can be overcome during exfoliation of graphene from graphite.
Graphene is the thinnest compound known to man at one atom thick, the lightest material known (with 1 square meter weighing around 0.77 milligrams), the strongest compound discovered (between 100-300 times stronger than steel with a tensile strength of 130 GPa and a Young's modulus of 1 TPa - 150,000,000 psi), the best conductor of heat at room temperature (at (4.84±0.44) × 10^3 to (5.30±0.4Cool × 10^3 W·m−1·K−1) and also the best conductor of electricity known (studies have shown electron mobility at values of more than 200,000 cm2·V−1·s−1). Other notable properties of graphene are its uniform absorption of light across the visible and near-infrared parts of the spectrum (πα ≈ 2.3%), and its potential suitability for use in spin transport.")) how is this helping you in anyway to understand how graphene works in rubber?
www.oemoffhighway.com/engineering-manufacturing/materials/article/21023807/the-many-possibilities-of-graphene here its simply writen and roughly describes why they want to use graphene in tires.
other wise if you just want to complain on the basis that you dont understand the topic youre complaining about go on(but tthats not normal behaviour)
The article talks about advantages generated by adding g grapheme to tire compounds. So it’s opposing you’re primary statement .
If you have 19 years of engineering in aerospace than I’m stunned by you’re lack of knowledge.(Also I never heard Someone with sufficient know on the topic talk like you(it’s a little bit suspicious))
But if that’s the case you should get some basics in your head. Read papers the whole nano particles in polymers stuff is big now(lots of material on that)
1) you answered youre own question so it’s not really a question any more(claiming its hype) it’s more of an statement.
2) where did I go off track?
3) i provided scientific sources(all but one) which all state the improvement of characteristics through adding graphene to polymers(one also to elastomers)
You on the other hand copied random lines from wiki(I think) regarding properties and structure of graphene (not on application in polymers)
4) what’s you’re real world experience(seam to lack some basic stuff)?
I’m an engineer for composite structures. I also have worked in a lab with cnts in Polymere matrix (I stated that earlier)(not as an engineer ).So I’m clearly no expert on the topic, but have sufficient basic knowledge to get the topic(something you seam to lack)
I’d say it’s as grippy and well damped as any other tyre I’ve tried Including the Magic Mary Ultrasoft and Assegai Maxxgrip. In dry conditions I’d say it’s better than either of those.
As for longevity, the front is showing minimal wear despite having done several hundred km, of which 100km was at Morzine and a further 40km at BPW.
I run tyres at fairly low pressures and have had no issues blowing the tyre off the rim on bigger berms at Pleney and Super Morzine.
Whilst I’m not the heaviest or most aggressive rider, I know a couple of very fast enduro racers who run this tyre and haven’t had the issues described in the review.
It’s also worth remembering that they’re generally available for less money than a similar Maxxis.
JP
Were they a few years old? What make/model? How did they go kaboom?
I think you're correct to speculate on what could have caused the failure, given both rims broke within a similar time frame. Either faulty rims, or those tires are bad news, though I find it hard to believe the tires could be the culprit
www.vittoria.com/ww/en/technology/enduro-trail-tyres#compounds
Depending on riding style, conditions and terrain, the new Enduro tyres featuring the 1C RACE compound can be fitted with different set-ups and alternatively combined also with other Vittoria Enduro tyres featuring the 4C compound for the best performance. The possible use can be:
FRONT & REAR: 1C RACE for the most wet, technical or rocky conditions where grip and damping have to be maximized.
FRONT: 1C RACE for maximization of grip at every lean angle, suppleness and energy absorption, especially to keep control at landings on technical sections.
REAR: 4C Graphene for pedalling efficiency, toughness and durability.
FRONT & REAR: 4C Graphene for hardpack fast terrains, ultimate robustness and strength.
So I'm guessing front 1c and rear 4c would have been better for your bike park laps based on this?
The biggest problem with Vittoria has been getting your hands on them. The Mazza's were always sold out everywhere!
Sounds like the 1C is a bit too soft for me and the 4C would be the way to go.
I love the grip they have and they do last a good amount of time, even better than tyres Ive previously used. In all the time Ive been using them Ive not yet had one come off the rim nor burp.
So impressed with them that I now run the 2.6" Mazza 4C tyres on my E-bike (with Cushcore 26psi F, 28psi R). That came with some DT Swiss hybrid rims which I will replace with Spank wheels if they ever need to be. Again though, the tyres seat in the bead really well and have never burped or come off.
Another thing I like about the Mazzas is how well the sidewalls wear. With Maxxis the sidewall rubber would wear and the threads would show through whereas Mazza does not seem to do so.
Be it on my trail bike or E-bike my riding is more about the descending so I put them through their paces. Personally I can't fault them. Ive tried various brands over the years looking for 'the' tyre that gives me what I want and these certainly do.
Everyone has an opinion on whats good or bad be it from personal experience or just jumping on the band wagon to praise or slam something, but for me these are definitely worth trying.
Am I the only here with big F/R pressure differences? I typically have 24 F and 29R with DH casing. Still can here, sometimes, dings but only in the rear.
Out here in Alberta, it's always dry and dusty, so regular soft works best for the majority of our riding.
The soft compound does wear amazingly but it doesn't have near the hold of a maxx grip, I'd even go as far to rank it below a maxx terra grip wise but this could also be the pattern as I've only ridden a KRF on the front. Matched with KRR rear but rear compound matters less to me there.
I think tires keep getting heavier and heavier.
"I think, and it's only my opinion, but these tires would be better with the added security of a thicker butyl insert. Yes, they would be heavier for it but the sheer grip delivered by this soft compound merits a sidewall that can keep up."
Again, am I missing something?
Essentially, Vittoria has created a Maxxis DHF MaxxTerra EXO casing tire that's an extra 400g heavier.
"Notably, the sidewall does without any kind of insert at the bead"
Am I missing something?
I don’t think you’re taking your job seriously,bro.
I am still struggling to understand your thinking as to how the tire could have possibly been a contributing factor in 2 carbon wheel breaks. why not list the brand(s) of wheel and we can all take our collective knowledge and make our own inferences. And before anyone says that isn't fair to the wheel manufacture, I would say either is blaming the tire company for a wheel failure. What's next? blaming Shimano for their brakes when a chainstay breaks that the upper brake mount?
For anyone >190lb, I really don't know how anything 28psi works on a 2.4 tire. A friend recommended I try 21F 23 rear once and it was basically riding a flat tire, any preload or berm would just fold that tire like noones business.
I fully agree with your experience.
I do think blowing the tire off is probably the fault of the entire tire being made from the same soft stuff. But I do think that it isn't exactly a crazy concept that it wouldn't hurt to up pressure for a really soft tire.
I would be curious to know if he tried higher pressures.
I run DD casing rears on my Enduro, and below 24psi, I can fold it over with a quick slash turn on flat ground. 27psi is front tire pressure, not rear.
As an example; a 27.5 2.4" tire will need more pressure than a 29 2.4" tire because it has less surface area and therefore to achieve the same support... More pressure.
How can you intelligently discuss pressure without ALWAYS referencing what size tire you run.
I hear you saying anything under 20 is crazy, but I'm coming off a vacation riding WBP and then Snoqualmie pass bike park last Saturday and I ride 19 front, 21 rear...
On a 29 x 2.6 WITH inserts. And I weigh 180 kitted up and ride blues and blacks. And last weekend lots of super rocky, super chunky tech. No rim dents, no flats.
If you wanna act like such an expert, you should try and BE an expert about your discussions.
Also, we can likely assume Henry isn't riding many Blue trails. Delayed Fuse is a Tech black in WBP....so just about anywhere else, would be a double black. Go ride Goats Gully or Clown Shoes at a reasonable clip, at 21psi in your rear tire and report back to us!
Presumably, being the professional reviewer that he is, Henry did not throw a new wheel on at the same time as these tires, run a lower pressure than he usually does, and blame the wheel's failure on the tire. (You know, isolating variables, scientific method and all that.)
A good reviewer, which I grant Henry the assumption that he is, would start a test with a new tire mounted to a familiar rim at a pressure comparable to that at which he would run other similarly-categorized tires. He's probably running (at first less than) 27 psi because it's what he knows he can get away with on other tires. The tire being the isolated variable here, why would it NOT be to blame for MULTIPLE wheel failures and a tire blowout, even after increasing the pressure to above what he usually runs?
Again, even if this could be corrected by pumping the tire up to 35 psi, this is valuable information and a mark against a tire. I rarely run over 26 psi in a 29 x 2.5 DoubleDown or DH casing Maxxis rear tire as a pro cat racer. If I have to inflate a tire to 35 psi to not break wheels and keep the rubber on the rim, I'm not interested.
My point is there is no way tk have that discussion 'with all things equal' unless you specify a 2.4, 2.6, etc tire width. Sure, you point out even MORE variables then tell me I'm silly? You're the one leaving all the variables out.
And making huge assumptions about someone's riding ability based on the pressures they run is insane.
Just right here most of us (probably all decent or above riders) think you're chosen pressures are whack.
You got a source for that information?
second, my source is a life of riding all the wheel sizes over the last 20 years, also math. go calculate the delta in air volume of a 27 vs 29 in a same width. you will only get an approximation because not all tires are the same shape or volume at a STATED size. Then total interior surface area of the tires to calculate total force acting on the tires. Then add 2 Psi to the 29 and see that it equals +/- a few % of what the 27 is.