RiDE Creatives Shows Off Unique Gearbox DH Bike Concept

Jan 15, 2024
by RiDE Team  
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Press Release: RiDE Studio

We created this concept bike to offer a compact and progressive mountain bike in a unique system. The frame uses a virtual high pivot point with a rearward wheel path which allows the shock to be placed low and centered in the frame. We utilized a Pinion Gearbox to keep the mass centralized, reduce unsprung weight, and heavily reduce maintenance.

This bike could also be set up as an enduro bike with its steep seat angle and long seat post insertion length. On the touchy subject of cable routing, we decided to make ports that look good with any drivetrain setup, wireless or not. Overlapping the swingarm with the front triangle provides a unique aesthetic. The tubes vary in thickness to reduce weight and give extra flex where desired.

Our ambitions with this project are to take it all the way to production in the next years.

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RiDE is based in Austria and is connected by a strong, creative network of individuals with experience in the bicycle and motorcycle industry. Although we are only just getting started, we have been privileged to collaborate already with Intense since day one. Our partnership with Intense has already formed several soon-to-be-released bikes that will deviate from industry trends.

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At RiDE, our creative endeavours extend beyond commissioned projects. In order to maintain a high level of innovation, motivation, and expertise, we engage in the development of projects between client assignments. This project is one of those.

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  • 93 2
 This looks like what I imagine would happen if Cesar Rojo designed a bike with Jeff Steber, and they went down the gearbox rabbit hole.
  • 41 0
 My first thought was, this is exactly what I'd expect an Unno with a gearbox to look like.
  • 13 1
 but seat tube and cable tourism designed properly on this one
  • 4 0
 @emarquar: Yes. But more importantly than this, RiDE please keep a particular region of this concept the way it is. That region is the cable routing. Do not ruin something that could be good for you and the market with some dumbass trend that literally no one asked for.
  • 3 0
 U nnow.....
  • 5 0
 Definitely got that Jeffar Stebejo look.
  • 4 0
 This looks more Waki to me in all honesty.
  • 2 0
 It looks like all the teams got together at a race weekend and had an orgy
  • 6 0
 I think Leo Kokkonen was there for part of the design as well
  • 6 0
 @TannerValhouli: he pioneered the dangling bb. Aka the dingle BBerry
  • 1 1
 who and who?
  • 3 0
 @Vudu74: In all seriousness, what the hell happened to Waki? Seems like a number of years ago he just vanished.
  • 4 0
 @vicrider: he realized that his interactions w this social media site were unhealthy for him and decided to go ride his bike instead. If only we had the strength and courage to follow his example.
  • 55 0
 Rotors are on backwards :'(
  • 5 0
 Well spotted.
  • 9 0
 maximum attention to detail on this thing. *groan*
  • 7 0
 Also the right pedal, but not the left.
  • 1 0
 lol I also noticed that before anything else about the bike or the design haha
  • 1 0
 and are too small for a DH rig IMO.
  • 1 3
 also, the tires don't say maxxis on both sides. one side should say maxxis and the other should have the model name
  • 1 0
 @Xmaxx123: It has both pedals in the pics...
  • 2 0
 @recneps57: the right pedal is the wrong way around
  • 34 1
 Am I missing something? How do you split the rear triangle to get the belt in there?? Or does one simply fit a new rear triangle every time you wear out a belt? Is this just a poorly thought out CAD render? Great.
  • 1 0
 Good point
  • 22 0
 you just need a saw and afterwards some ductape
  • 20 2
 The wonders of industrial design. It doesn’t have to work…
  • 15 1
 The belt has a quick link .
  • 4 0
 @notthatfast: whilst it's probably just poor work on their part you can get these www.veercycle.com/collections/all/products/split-belt-pro not that you can see any joining pins, as someone points out below the rotors are on backwards so maybe they've never ridden a bike before.
  • 4 0
 @p0rtal00:
Interesting, never seen that before. That's clearly not what this is, but nice to know.
If you're going to put a press release out there to the public, it's probably a good idea to have somebody that knows a thing or two about bikes take a look before announcing it to the world. If they can't get rotors on the correct way around, what does that say about the rest of the design?
  • 3 0
 Employ an assembly line of magicians
  • 4 0
 I guess the rotors on backward is ok because there's no rear brake mount anyway.
  • 3 0
 the belt is installed when the rear triangle is laid up
  • 18 7
 What is the point of this "article"?
This is every high school kids first attempt at drawing a bike in their shop class.
Slow news day at PB HQ...
  • 8 2
 Props to RIDE Team for bringing fresh ideas in such a conservative environment as MTBike industry.
Yet, the communication might be a little too rushy/agressive as the company is a very young name in the bicycle Design and needs mature attention when it comes to details.
The stance of the bike is sick but the functionality and realistic feasibility could be questioned so be aware in the next designs to build up experience and maturity.

People could have already spotted the belt impossible to assemble, the swingarm needs a split or should go around it (above like Orange for instance).
I will add a few points as well, like the shock compatibility in such a tiny space and the access of the shock settings. Gravity is the most critical discipline with suspensions, there are so many shock options and different sponsoring on the circuit, and users/mechanics need to get they're fingers on them regularly. Shock options could be narrowed down but the mainstream choices should be taken into consideration. The Fox X2 lineup and angled piggyback settings will be impossible to setup without getting the shock out.

Forged carbon is also cool and esthetic but it has no good structural properties for frame tubbing. It's rather useful on linkages and small parts with specific applications, injected nylon + short fibers is also a very close process which is widely used.

The high center of gravity can be a drawback for handling and timed racing. The Intense M29 initiated that same idea of compacity but the shock was still quite low. If the Pinion Box is rotated this would leave more room to lower the shock, increase the shock accessibility and maybe align the toptube with the seatstays and keep a slick and fast look.

And as widely spotted, rotors are backwards on MTBikes compared to Motorcycles.

So once again, very cool design but back up next designs with strong details to add credibility. Keep up the good work!
  • 4 2
 Ladies and gentleman, this is a prime example of the shit sandwich
  • 3 1
 @Naero: Mmh I disagree. At least it gives constructive criticism compared to many other posts here that just want to rip appart anything that looks different than what they're used to.

They've done an awesome job on the Intense M1 and maybe the Ride team wanted to communicate a bit because of the Intense team announcement, and did it a bit hastly with a concept that was not 100% thought out (I mean the lack of opening in the rear triangle with a belt is a big error for a bike oriented design studio, they could have use a chain and nobody could've said anything).
But better get new clients with a hasty concept than fold the company because of no clients. I'm no bike company searching for a design studio, but I've heard about them thanks to this article.

One could say it's a style concept more than a proto, but it's "too realistic" to be a concept, so it's perceived as a proto, and then those issues matter.

Designing a bike looks simple, and you want to get noticed by doing something original, but often you realise there's a reason if bikes look like... bikes, and most often a technical reason as qblambda listed.
It's cool to make original shapes but if prototype testing makes you change the whole bike, then it means your initial idea was just wrong.

Regarding forged carbon, maybe it could be used for the seat mast that is supposedly not used much in DH, but the rest of the frame should not use forged carbon.
  • 13 7
 The Kavenz VHP Pinion is already in production:

kavenz.com/blog/gwagon

I have one order with the revised drop outs which are interchangeable (0, +10, +20)

I'll have mine in a few weeks.
  • 1 5
flag sanchofula (Jan 15, 2024 at 14:45) (Below Threshold)
 Curious, I got two downvotes and I can't figure out why, anyone?
  • 5 23
flag jomacba (Jan 15, 2024 at 16:16) (Below Threshold)
 @sanchofula: Because liberals.
  • 2 1
 @sanchofula: Changing the Chainstay length effects suspension setup which is why we dont see it more often, Brands like rocky can get away with it because the suspension is very progressive
  • 2 14
flag jomacba (Jan 15, 2024 at 20:27) (Below Threshold)
 Uh ohhh, did somebody get offended??
  • 6 2
 @HeatedRotor: no, that's not how suspension kinematics actually work. There are no heuristic rule of thumbs like this. This concept design uses counter rotating short links. The kavenz uses a horst link. The chainstay length changes in both these designs.

Both designs can be used to accomplish similar or radically different suspension properties.

Stop thinking that suspension perf can be intuited from frame layout. It does you a disservice in choosing bikes.

Either compare bikes by looking at the real kinematic charts or ride them to experience how those design choices affect ride feel, but stop w the " this layout means this and that one means that" voodoo bs.
  • 2 1
 @freestyIAM: If you increase leverage from the Axle, ie longer = more leverage... well that is how it works...
Go ride an Altitude and swap between them, you can feel the suspension feel weird untill you change setup.

Physic's dont change lol. I guess next you'll tell me breaker bars dont make any difference because they have a different handle despite the 500mm length increase.

I've ridden 20+ Frame designs in the last 3 years i guess experience is just a fake news thing now.
  • 3 1
 @HeatedRotor: again, the length of the chainstays get longer in both designs. Take a second to watch the video to convince yourself of this ( you make be under the impression that the rear triangle rotates around a fixed point but it does not, it's 2 short links which means length from rear axel to the idler changes as the suspension cycles.)

Riding bikes gives you an understanding of ride feel but does not give you direct insight into kinematics, only kinematics do that.

You are correct, physics do not change, but you have not actually identified any physical difference in designs with your assertion that this design does not change the chainstay length (bc it does)

Yes it is possible to ride many many bikes and still not understand how they work, case and point.
  • 7 0
 I want my future gearbox (Pinion MGU) ebike to look something like this....
  • 5 0
 Looks like an unno with no 8foot seatpost
  • 2 0
 It's ok though, they've given it 8 foot of bb mast instead
  • 1 0
 Un-no-Way.
  • 5 0
 I'm relieved that there is a "technical window" in the top tube
  • 4 0
 This is what would happen if Unno and Pole made a DH bike together, and then decided to throw a gearbox on it.
  • 5 2
 There's one bit of truth in the PR at least. "We have been privileged to collaborate already with Intense since day one" - it shows in the loud and ugly branding.
  • 2 0
 First thing I imagined was my wiener getting stuck between upper link and seatpost/top tube while riding naked. Is something wrong with me? ‍

Nice looking DH Frame, though!
The purple looks awesome
  • 1 1
 Replace the RiDE Logo with the KTM Logo to see the upcoming range of KTM Bikes.....Craig Dent --> Kiska-Design ( KTM Design Studio ). I remeber an old interview when they said that the conlusion of some workshops was that plastic footrests wont work on motocross bikes.
  • 3 0
 That shock looks very high to me. It’s above the idler gear which is way higher than other high pivot bikes
  • 1 1
 How do you think the shock being 'high' has anything to do with it being a high pivot? That's not a way you can judge a bike's kinematic but you could make points about aesthetics and CoG
  • 4 0
 Looks like an Unno and V10 had a baby
  • 4 0
 "Hey DALL-E, design me a futuristic downhill bike"
  • 1 1
 This looks quite cool, but someone crucial to the development of this bike ok'd that "RIDE" graphic emblazoned on the side of it, which not only makes look like a Halfords special, but also means that they are f*cking stupid and that it is probably not the only thing wrong with this bike... Red flag...
  • 1 1
 Their website doesn't say they really do anything, just useless stretch concept for others. If I had known this was gonna be an industry, I'd have sold my idea for an underwater helicopter I drew on a napkin with the suggested materials being recycled soda cans and fairy juicy. If anyone values their own life even in the slightest amount, maybe wait a few years before buying any of this companies stuff, assuming they don't perish soon
  • 2 0
 Looks like Zerode and Nicolai are not the only player in the pinion DH scene. Zerode G3 is still the most desireable.
  • 3 0
 It feels like Pinkbike is using AI to fabricate articles.
  • 1 0
 Enduro? Where's the custom water bottle? (to fit in the frame - like with the XC version) Or will space be added for same? =P
  • 2 0
 You should try an Effigear gearbox on it
  • 3 1
 If this bike is produced, I might have to sell my kidney and buy one
  • 1 0
 Perhaps that bike company should make a Trail and Enduro bike on that design style. I bet it could be very lightweight.
  • 1 0
 Scared me for a second, thought we were in round three of the wheel wars ~ going down to a 208mm now (facepalm) Wink
  • 1 0
 How many pinkbike comments do manufacturers need to see before they start providing more non-driveside pics?
  • 1 0
 Great to see innovation and fresh designs with everything going on in the industry.
  • 1 0
 Great proportions. These renders look good. Nice sketches too!
  • 2 0
 Clean looking bike!
  • 1 0
 Looks sick honestly. Let's see a real prototype.
  • 4 2
 But why?
  • 2 1
 oh good another bike brand
  • 1 0
 That looks a lot like an unn!
  • 1 0
 Santa Cruz Burn, I…I…I mean UNNO Bronson, I..I..I Mean……. Uhg
  • 3 1
 That is sexy as hell!
  • 1 0
 Win a worldcup, then we’ll talk
  • 1 0
 What AI fever dream is this thing from?
  • 1 0
 Looks like an Unno... maybe Doss would be a better name?
  • 1 0
 Looks like the latest Gamux
  • 1 0
 Don't really like how top heavy it looks. Reminds me of the Pole.
  • 1 3
 Now just a little electric motor in there to make up for the drag and put it on a level playing field with the conventional drivetrains…
  • 2 1
 no udh?
  • 1 0
 Good luck.
  • 1 1
 Ebike version would be mint
  • 1 0
 That fork will kill you.
  • 1 0
 nice
  • 2 3
 This is the best looking'bike' ever...
  • 1 1
 This is the way
  • 1 3
 Friction box bike
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