The 2024 Berria Mako Uses An Internal Shock For XC & DC

Sep 8, 2023
by Seb Stott  
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You may not have heard of Berria, but their latest offering may look a little familiar. The Spanish brand's latest offering is an XC/marathon and downcountry platform with an internal shock. The shock is located vertically inside the seat tube and is driven by a partially-hidden rocker link which is located just behind, much like we've seen recently from Bold and Scott. Like most modern XC bikes, it uses a flexy seatstay instead of a rear pivot, generating a generous 113 mm of travel.


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Berria Mako XC...
Photo by Tom Richards Scott Spark Contessa
..and Scott Spark. Similar?
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Why hide the shock inside the frame? Here's Berria's explanation: "This integration not only results in better protection of the shock absorber against mud or dust, for example, but also in improved mass distribution and a lower weight in the central part of the bike, which increases stability, especially at high speeds." As we covered in a previous article, a lower shock position won't really make the bike more stable. It looks nice, though. It also allows two bottles to fit inside the main triangle.

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XC
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DC

There are two versions of the Mako, for XC/XCO and downcountry, both using the same frame. XCO-equipped models feature a 110mm travel fork, 760mm handlebars, rims with a 25 or 28mm internal width, and 2.25” tires, plus Berria's Tibia seatpost on top-end models, which offers 14 mm of flex. Downcountry versions come with a 125mm dropper seatpost, 120 or 130mm travel forks, 4-piston brakes, 780mm bars, 30mm rims and 2.35” tires.

Most models use Berria's HM2X fibre, with a claimed frame weight of 2,175g (1,795g without hardware), but the top-end Mako BR (XCO models only) uses their more sophisticated UHM3X carbon fibre for a claimed weight of 1,875g (1,495g W/O hardware). The frame features a UDH hanger (SRAM T-type compatible), provision for FOX's Live Valve electronic suspension system and an integrated headset with full internal cable routing.

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Spec highlights on top-end models include a one-piece bar and stem. XCO builds use one with 0mm rise and 60mm, 75mm or 95mm effective stem lengths depending on frame size, or the stem length can be customised on Berria's website - which is cool to see. Berria say the cockpit weighs as little as 175 g. DC versions get 50 or 75 mm stem lengths, 20 mm rise and 780 mm width, weighing a claimed 290-300 g. The aforementioned Tibia seatpost used on high-end XC models is 420 mm long, 31.6 mm in diameter and weighs 220 g.

Compared to the previous Berria Mako (this is the fourth iteration), the geometry has been modernised. The chainstay length has been reduced by 5mm to 430mm, while the head angle has been slackened by 1.7°. The reach has grown too, resulting in a wheelbase increase of 18mm despite the shorter rear-centre. The head angle varies by size, getting slacker in the smaller sizes. The longer forks used in the DC version result in slacker head angles, more stack, less reach and longer wheelbase across the board.

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XC geo
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DC geo

The Bierra Mako is available now. For more info head to berriabikes.com



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109 Comments
  • 138 3
 Hold on while I Berria shock in this frame (and cables, general sensibilities, etc,etc...)
  • 18 6
 Mako puns great again.
  • 13 3
 I like puns, they mako me Berria happy
  • 1 3
 zrrg
  • 3 3
 They should Slash the price for those monstrosities
  • 3 0
 @IntoTheEverflow: Your pun game XCeeds expectations. Wordplay aint DCeased.
  • 59 0
 Internal cables, internal shock, I can't wait for internal rider with a hull shield like the good old bmw C1 in order to finally be able to ride when it's raining
  • 22 0
 Internal rider is just Zwift
  • 4 0
 You want a mountain velomobile.
  • 1 0
 @mattg95: I love zwift..(for extreme Canadian winters only however)
  • 35 0
 To quote Doc Brown... "Great Scott!"
  • 24 4
 ...I mean, it looks less bloated than the Scott (which, lets be honest, looks like an e-bike)
But I cannot imagine placing a 235g shock down in the bottom bracket is going to do much re: weight distribution (at least noticeably). That all goes out the window once a water bottle is added. This is all just for looks
  • 25 1
 You are correct to not imagine that.
  • 6 8
 Keep in mind it also allows for the entire area that sees the stress of suspension movement to be somewhat compact and well braced. It isn't a large difference, but most changes the bike industry has seen in recent years are exactly that; marginal gains.

Think of it like this, a bit better is a bit better than a bit worse. There may be other tradeoffs that you are not willing to work with, such as internal cable routing, but all other things the same, this system is pretty clean looking and does allow for some benefits.

This comment section is so cynical so often.
  • 6 2
 @sherbet: The comment section is often cynical for good reason.

Some tradeoffs for a bit better aren't worth it if the amount better (for whatever definition of better you choose) has no noticeable effect on the product but what you're trading away to get there does.

Or to put it another way, "a bit better" is only worth it if the alternative was hindering performance in some way.
  • 17 4
 Let me know how putting a shock inside a frame hinders performance. As it sits, it keeps the shock more clean, is a single t25 or quicklatch away from being able to put air it in.

Meanwhile, we've had DH and Enduro bikes on the market where the shock essentially had to be removed from the frame to add air or change suspension settings. We've had a decade of piss poor internal cable routing from dozens of companies. I've had to remove entire rear triangles and linkages from bikes to get the shock off for service. None of those companies were raked through the coals for their poor designs, but these companies doing something innovative and different are getting the drama even though they're rather easy to work on. I've worked on the modern Scotts and Bolds. The Scotts are a breeze to work on, the Bolds are not. The shock and cables being internal do not inherently make it hard to work on, designing the system poorly makes it hard to work on.

You've got caught up with a bandwagon on pinkbike and can't put your finger on what makes this bad, but you know it's bad, you know you dislike it, and you know it should go away. Why is that? Shrug, but it should.

It's okay to be cynical, but you should start with having a point. The shock being low doesn't help significantly is not a good reason to piss on a bike. It helps more than it hinders, which makes it a reasonably good thing.
  • 3 9
flag nilswalk (Sep 8, 2023 at 10:17) (Below Threshold)
 @sherbet: Reading comprehension fail - I never said putting the shock in the frame hinders performance. I said it's only worth it if the status quo (i.e. not doing it) was hindering performance in some way. i.e. the marginal increase in stiffness (or whatever else it is that's claimed) only matters *if that was actually a problem in the first place*, which it isn't.

You'd make a terrible engineer.
  • 5 3
 Your shock being dirty increases how often you need to service your shock. Hiding it away makes it stay clean for longer. That is a benefit. That is worth it over the status quo to people looking at this bike. Something not being a day ending problem does not mean it isn't worth trying to improve. Please keep the childish quips to yourself if this is the level of discussion you bring to the table.
  • 3 4
 @sherbet: Putting the shock inside frame makes it harder to service, harder to adjust, harder to change pressure, and limits the size of usable shock.

Getting a shock dirty isn't much of an issue if maintenance intervals are observed.
  • 7 3
 This is how I can tell you haven't worked on one. For the Spark, top bolt is accessible through a little rubber grommet. Bottom is accessable when the shock cover is off the frame, which for most models is accessible via a SINGLE PUSH BUTTON, or a two position turn switch. Takes under 5 seconds to remove. All the adjustments for said frames are bespoke and reside at the end of the shock body, making them hyper easy to access and work with. Pressure is the same deal. Shock air valve is at the end of the shock body, so you remove the cover and add air. The giant shock cover also lets you put your hand into the frame to help guide internally routed cables through. It's a little like being able to pop open your hood when working on your car, hardly a bad thing. Systems are different for different brands. Bold, for example, is a vastly bigger fuck around to work on, and I'll absolutely agree they could do a better design for their internal shocks and cable routing.
  • 2 4
 @sherbet: If they're getting around some of the issues by using customized shocks which makes it even worse. Making a bike require a custom shock has never worked well, and inevitably leaves the owner looking for support after a couple years. In addition, it makes it even more difficult to fit an aftermarket shock.
  • 7 2
 My god you have the worst takes. An hour ago you had no idea how the shock worked, but had strong opinions on it. You still have 0 idea of what ways the shock is different, but here you are again, with strong opinions on why it's bad but no understanding of the situation.

Do us both a favour and form opinions AFTER you have some experience. You're parroting dumb internet comments and it's genuinely embarrassing.

Aftermarket shocks fit, the stroke and eye to eye are standard. The seal packages needed are the same. The difference is the adjustment knobs are found on the end of the shock body, not the side. That's literally it.

This is also ignoring how many custom shocks are already on the market. Scott and Spesh have been using custom shocks on their XC bikes for almost two decades. Take a look at the Trek Supercaliber and tell me that's normal. Why is it not an issue until it's mounted on a bike with an internal shock? What about the shock being inside suddenly drastically changes everything logical about the conversation? Just f*ckin' stop already.
  • 2 6
flag Bad-Mechanic FL (Sep 8, 2023 at 15:11) (Below Threshold)
 @sherbet: You don't need to be punched in the face to know it sucks.

You don't need to work on one of these to know the trade off of a "cleaner" bike isn't worth it.
  • 7 2
 You have some experience with what happens when you are punched in the face, even if it hasnt happened to you. We've all watched boxing, we know. That's experience, that's how you know it sucks, as you have experienced what it does to someone. Meanwhile, you've made factually incorrect statements multiple times on this topic, refused to listen to the corrections, and still assert something you have literally no idea about. Feel free to cite any actual real world issues. I may be able to give you some insight as I am aware of how some of these systems work. It'a okay to learn.
  • 2 5
 @sherbet: Just because you don't agree with my statements doesn't make them factually incorrect.

Everything I said is true. You obviously think the downsides are worth having a cleaner looking bike. I do not.
  • 6 2
 But you are factually incorrect. Comments such as this, to literally quote you;

"Making a bike require a custom shock has never worked well, and inevitably leaves the owner looking for support after a couple years. In addition, it makes it even more difficult to fit an aftermarket shock."

Many companies have offered custom proprietary shocks for years, and they haven't gone bankrupt over them. You're incorrect there. Most of the top shelf XC bikes currently on market use some level of custom shock.

The seals are the same as the normal shocks, so you don't need support anymore so than with a regular shock.

The eye to eye and stroke are the same as a standard metric shock, so replacing the shock down the road is as easy on literally any bike.

I've already said all this, and if you had read my replies rather than just reply to them with ignorance, perhaps you would have learned something instead of repeating incorrect claims. Let me say this bluntly so you can fully understand; you are wrong. You do not know what you are talking about. This is your chance to learn something new, please take me up on the offer.
  • 1 0
 All arguing about functionality aside, I would really like a Xc bike that could hold two water bottles if everything else is equal. Or a Xc bike with a true xl size.
  • 1 0
 It does make dual water bottles possible by allowing one on the seat tube. There are other ways to do this, but if you want a rocker controlled suspension layout, this is really the only way to do it.
  • 15 0
 scott this is all your fault
  • 30 0
 That's quite a bold claim.
  • 13 1
 You lost me at headset cable routing. I’m out
  • 4 1
 Lost me at internal cable routing. Out too.
  • 9 0
 The power move is headset cable routing followed by external cable routing.
  • 1 0
 I'm lost too
  • 1 0
 @tkrug: the real power move is to not buy the crap in the first place
  • 11 1
 I at least like the look of it
  • 12 5
 Better looking than the new Slash.
  • 3 5
 @wda1wustl: Form should follow function. The Slash is built to rip. .This is built to impress dentists and stockbrokers.

First "freeride" bikes from companies like Cove got slammed for looking......like almost every bike these days because the design was better.
  • 1 0
 @wda1wustl: U.A.S. ugly as slash?
  • 1 0
 I agree. it looks great like Spark. But i'm using my bike to ride, not to just look at it.
  • 9 0
 Hide that shock so it never shows. How do you get it out? Nobody knows!
  • 2 0
 A hacksaw and about 5 minutes of my time would get it out quite easily. The problem is convincing warranty that I was just riding along and the frame magically exploded. Although I am waiting for an internally mounted water bottle model so I can hide the bottles filled with fireball and whiskey from everybody else on the ride.
  • 1 0
 @WestC0astWanderer: Joking aside, being able to fill the frame with drinkable water, keeping that weight low, makes more sense than hiding a shock in the frame
  • 1 0
 @WestC0astWanderer: what do you think all the SWAT style compartments are for?
  • 6 0
 I know nothing about Berria's bicycles, but their Tacos are fricken DELICIOUS !!
  • 4 0
 Of all the scenarios they could spend money creating a fake picture of they choose a guy riding in the dark wearing sunglasses.
  • 3 0
 AI isn't quite up to speed on acceptable fake MTB photos yet. Just wait a few months.
  • 3 2
 I am surprised they keep quoting better mass distribution with the shock being internally placed, I imagine the average person can not detect that kind of shift in center of gravity since these XC shocks are a small fraction of the overall weight of the system. The target rider will likely have two water bottles in the frame, which is the benefit they should really be trying to sell people on. However, that second water bottle above the shock likely negates any mass distribution/center of gravity benefits of putting the shock in the frame in the first place. Just kinda funny, I think.
  • 3 1
 yeah, not to mention the 50-150kg rider perched on top of the bike
  • 1 1
 nevermind not having proportional rear centers. hogwash.
  • 6 1
 Hope they checked all patents in detail. Smile
  • 6 1
 why making fake riding pictures? Is this fake real bike too?
  • 2 0
 Not sure what's going on there either. Why take the photo at night and photoshop some flying dirt on the bottom part of the wheels. How is the front wheel supposed to get dirt spraying up like that anyways?
  • 1 0
 I like the 200mm cranks.
  • 4 0
 Using "Spark of genius" is criminal lol
  • 4 0
 AeRo iS eVeRyThInG
  • 3 1
 It does seem silly gormost of us. But then realize UCI XCC avg speeds are nearly 22mph and routinely see speeds in the mid 30s, faster than your local hitter road ride. Makes sense for that application.
  • 3 0
 Why does it need a springy seat post if it’s got a rear shock?
  • 2 0
 No closeup on that rocker link.
Looks like they couldn't use Bolt's patent and went the "mud inside your frame" route.
  • 1 0
 On the plus side, this makes mechanical doping less likely. When there's a shock stuffed inside the frame, at least you know there isn't a motor hidden in there!
  • 1 0
 and we have ZERO idea of what the shock looks like, shape it is in or weather it needs help either in a tech way or if maintenance is needed. Dumb as a sack of hammers.
  • 1 0
 Just an question: Why all photos in al news are from right bike side? Not a single left side photo...
  • 2 0
 That's where the cool drivetrain bits are
  • 2 0
 The new F-Podium dropped yesterday but it doesn't seem all that different.
  • 2 0
 Size specific headtube angles aren’t going to become a thing are they?
  • 1 0
 Flex stays is the new High Pivot and hidden rear shock is new level of bottle cage hype?
  • 2 0
 this industry is too much focused o bike looks
  • 1 0
 I hate it but I also admit that their shock-access port looks better and more usable than Scott's...
  • 2 0
 Look at that actual seat angle, the frickin thing has fallen asleep!
  • 2 0
 I always found shock adjustments and maintenance too easy. Problem solved.
  • 1 0
 Terrible idea. No easy way to check sag, pump up the shock, remove the shock, monitor the o-ring, etc.
  • 2 0
 Flattering.
  • 1 0
 There is a hidden motor boater in the down tube. Can anyone find waldo.
  • 1 0
 Something, something XC/DC
  • 4 2
 All the tourism-yay!!!
  • 1 0
 Nah- they forgot to route the front brake cable down the fork tube .. but shhh - don't get bad ideas
  • 1 0
 looks like a ses......scott?
  • 1 1
 I have a bike with a hidden rear suspension. Sort of. Unless you look at my legs because it’s a hardtail.
  • 1 0
 I love Birria tacos, not sure about the bike though
  • 1 0
 Why are all seat tubes so big and ugly now?
  • 1 0
 DoWncoUntrY.....nonsense.
  • 1 0
 AC/DC = upcountry/downcountry
  • 1 0
 more aero. Taking a leaf out of the roadies
  • 1 0
 @seb-stott where do I upvote the homepage subtitle??
  • 1 0
 XC-XCO-DC .. WTF?
  • 2 0
 XC = Cross Country
XCO = Cross Country Olympic
DC = Down Country
WTF - Way Too Fast
  • 1 0
 But, why though?
  • 1 0
 Looks like a S... park
  • 1 1
 pretty
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