Last week saw Sea Otter return to full strength for 2022, with a packed venue full of exhibitors, racing, and a lot of mountain bikers who were all happy to be back at Weathertech Laguna Seca Raceway. And it wouldn't be an Otter without a bunch of new bikes and fresh gear, which is what Mike Kazimer, Alicia Leggett, and myself are on about in today's episode. We get into the details of Contra Bikes' steel high pivot machine, EXT's new air shock, a ton of fresh clothing, X-Fusion's wireless dropper post, and a whole bunch more.
THE PINKBIKE PODCAST // EPISODE 116 - NEW BIKES AND GEAR FROM SEA OTTER April 11th, 2022
The only otters I saw were at the aquarium.
Featuring a rotating cast of the editorial team and other guests, the Pinkbike podcast is a weekly update on all the latest stories from around the world of mountain biking, as well as some frank discussion about tech, racing, and everything in between.
Ditto on that. PB is awesome but the cast is just the highlight of each week for me. I could deal with daily cast but - that's prob pretty time consuming.
@eddycheever: Pretty sure that aint happening. Would be the Beta Outside cast at that point & the revolt would be complete.They already mentioned the PB Racing cast is likely gonna be paid so: f*ck that. Live Henry & Ben but Downtime has been casting DH for years and excellently, others too so those are fine, plus I watch so if it goes paid: bummer, I aint paying for that. I would have kicked in $100s on the team just to get a t-shirt or some shades & support the team but they didn't go that route… dunno why. Anyway: yeah, if the normal PB cast is pay-to-listen, Im out. Id see no reason left to be a diehard fan
I know you love your hypothetical questions, so here is one for you: If you could have a bike that has either: a) Top of the line carbon frame and the best shocks (front & rear) but only entry-level components and alloy wheels or b) Entry-level alloy frame and shocks (rideable, not like a Huffy or some other total piece of s***!) with top of the line components and the best carbon wheels Which would you choose and why? (Assuming geo and travel were the same.)
I’d ride the wheels off of an alloy stumpy (for example) with AXS everything, carbon wheels, and a perfectly set up Rhythm 34/Performance DPS. If I rode an S-works frame with Factory suspension but cheese wheels and organic brake pads on 160mm rotors, I’d have very short rides, lots of warranty wheel claims, and melted brakes.
Better frame design and suspension, every time. Material is irrelevant. In this case it’s carbon. But if the aluminum had better geometry / design, than that one wins.
Carbon wheels are light, but they can’t fix a flexy frame, or one that has brake jack on descents.
Where as many pro’s race on aluminum wheels…
Components are meant to be replaced regularly, frames shouldn’t be.
Choice (a) every time. Components are trivial to upgrade. If you have reasonable wheel building skills and can find a matching ERD, even upgrading your rims doesn't have to be prohibitively expensive.
Here’s a question. How do you feel on rigid bikes? I’ve been riding a Stooge cycles MK5, I remember Matt Lakins dirtbomb being covered on pinkbike and being mentioned on a previous podcast. I think it’s quite an interesting segment of the market and there’s only a few companies doing modern geometry style rigid bikes. With the rise of ultra complicated high pivot carbon bikes, some people just like something simple and back to basics, but still new school in a way. Can you guys see this market growing/developing?
Alicia - I get your bird love. My wife and I have 3: 2 budgies, name Pickles (classic green) and Moonshine (grey/blue) with a lovebird named Peepers (yellow with peachface).
Ditto on that - I didn't really look closely at the frame until the prev cast episode but Jebus H...that thing is unreal looking. Now, to just save up $8k extra for one...
@michaelandk2: I meant whole bike - that interview said no frame only at least for now so, guessing thats out. Realistically even a used bike (or 2nd-hand frame) is prob gonna command premium coin ans get snapped up instantly for years, esp w/ the global economy tanking with this f*cking BS war just as it was on the upswing (and total side note but ebike riders are gonna likely garage those rigs or pay 2-3x as much for batts unless some type of scrap program on metals pops up… all the nickel was coming from Russia)
Question - how much am I obligated to kit up in accordance with the bike I'm riding? Is it a faux pas to run mallet enduro pedals on my epic evo? Will I be shunned from society if I do a 50 mile marathon race not wearing lycra?
1) Q: Levy said something in one of the 3 recent podcasts before this about an "issue" being ready for mailing soon...is this publication and if so, what's that?
2) Comm: Gotta point out that Eminent (Onset models) can change 3 different travel options quite quickly with shock strut change outs - 120/130; 130/150 and 155/160-180). The struts change out in literally 5-10 mins.
As for forks, while you could change airsprings (Fox or RS) the Manitou Mezzer expert (29) changes from 140-180 travel in about 30 mins (assuming you have shop setup) just with token change-out. I changed my 180 to 160 in 30 mins from mounted on the bike to re-mounted back on the bike. Agreed you wouldn't do this daily or even weekly, but if going to an area that's more trail vs. steep / rough style a change out like this easily worth it.
I've not heard much chatter about this bike or option, just scored a (used) frame and gotta say - this thing makes the Capra feel like a schoolbus on climbs and easily keeps the same speed on downs (and I still keep getting PRs vs. my previous times). However - gotta say the WA1 bike looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better!
Re: changing your bike to suit different conditions. I think that has alot of merit going the other way (Enduro -> DH) and is something that seems to be gaining a little traction here in Aus. Swap the fork, drivetrain and post and you're off to the races!
@mikelevy maybe you just need a Red Bull labeled camera because it sure captured many close-up views of a new Rock Shox "Brain" with wires on front and rear and a cap that looks a lot like flight attendant on their own course preview video...
Great to hear you're testing an Orange and that Contra bike - hopefully they'll be going up against one another in a Field Test. It's a positive move to be testing more quirky bikes, adds a bit more interest to the content (as well as probably being more interesting for you than testing a load of identikit carbon bikes).
Question for you: I am struggling to justify the $30+ additional cost per litter between off-the-shelf Maxima 15wt Fork Oil and the RockShox-recommended Maxima Extra 15w50 oil for my shock can. Online comparison appears to be nearly identical in terms of viscosity and performance features. Is the Maxima Extra nothing more than a rebranding for extra profit gouging or is there a real difference?
That Unno e-bike is the most ugly piece of shit I have ever seen on two wheels - and I have seen more 1980s Suzuki Katanas and Klein MTBs than any single person should ever be exposed to.
Since this was mentioned on the podcast... How about a field test (or other PB media type item) whose entry criteria is "bikes that can't hold a water bottle"?
a) Top of the line carbon frame and the best shocks (front & rear) but only entry-level components and alloy wheels
or
b) Entry-level alloy frame and shocks (rideable, not like a Huffy or some other total piece of s***!) with top of the line components and the best carbon wheels
Which would you choose and why? (Assuming geo and travel were the same.)
200 pound club problems
Carbon wheels are light, but they can’t fix a flexy frame, or one that has brake jack on descents.
Where as many pro’s race on aluminum wheels…
Components are meant to be replaced regularly, frames shouldn’t be.
Once we know this, we will then criticize your audio settings as the don’t work for Clydesdales
1) Q: Levy said something in one of the 3 recent podcasts before this about an "issue" being ready for mailing soon...is this publication and if so, what's that?
2) Comm: Gotta point out that Eminent (Onset models) can change 3 different travel options quite quickly with shock strut change outs - 120/130; 130/150 and 155/160-180). The struts change out in literally 5-10 mins.
As for forks, while you could change airsprings (Fox or RS) the Manitou Mezzer expert (29) changes from 140-180 travel in about 30 mins (assuming you have shop setup) just with token change-out. I changed my 180 to 160 in 30 mins from mounted on the bike to re-mounted back on the bike. Agreed you wouldn't do this daily or even weekly, but if going to an area that's more trail vs. steep / rough style a change out like this easily worth it.
I've not heard much chatter about this bike or option, just scored a (used) frame and gotta say - this thing makes the Capra feel like a schoolbus on climbs and easily keeps the same speed on downs (and I still keep getting PRs vs. my previous times). However - gotta say the WA1 bike looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better!
Second: Alicia, thanks for the dog content.
and now a gripe that has almost nothing to do with you guys:
Dual Slalom coverage behind a paywall= ANTI-STOKE.