Video: Friday Fails #146

 I wouldn't be riding with those "friends" again.

 @learningcycles: yep couldn't believe the stupidity on display there...

 Those guys are dicks. Pretty easy way to bust up a shoulder or a collar bone.

 Need to make sure you weigh more than the rider behind you - then it becomes a Wile-e-Coyote launch pad

 I thought that seesaw crash was due entirely to basic stoopid on the part of his mates. Speaks to the basic lack of educayshun and knowledge of basic physics these days.....

 Justifiable homicide for retaliation.

 Back in my hometown someone propped up the end of a teeter totter with a log, possibly as a practical joke? The unfortunate random victim became a quadriplegic.

 @txclg: murder is always the answer

 That wasn't a fail. Her friends were just dicks for making her have to try an unscheduled trackstand at the end of the see-saw.

 @rodeostu: OK, but IMO, they just demo'ed the spirit of mountain biking at it's WORST. Mike V. , if he's still alive will latch onto that clip like a lamprey onto a bunker bass, and bleed it for all the mtb-hate that he can get.

 I hope they planned together to make it a drop off.

 @rodeostu: I've seen the whole video and all is not what it may seem in this short cut.
The first time they did it was with 3 riders and they all successfully made it over. It was pretty cool.

Then, as seen is this edit they tried with 4 and as you saw it all falls apart when the second rider stalls out and stops rider 3, both stuck on the down end. Rider 4 has no place to go so he bails to his left.
I didn't think there was any malice involved at first but the more I watch it I'm not certain rider 2 wasn't being a jackastic bastage. Maybe just a bad idea and poorly executed. If so, that Seesaw is too short for 4 and they need the heaviest rider to lead.

 Man that was savage. That one clip summed up this week's video perfectly.

 @RayDolor: Who is this "Mike V" of whom you speak? Mike Vallely, the skateboarding legend?

 yeah those dickheads on the see-saw, but it's OK, he was planning on dumping her (again) later the same day....

 @rodeostu: someone is not getting laid that night

 @rodeostu: No,nono.....He's this old dude, older than me, out in Oakland, CA. Once attacked a mtb rider with a limb saw and got a conviction on a felony rap. Some kinda psychologist or something like that who professes
the C-air-uh Klub's zero tolerance towards bikes on anything but pavement. Looks like an uglier version of a Keebler elf.

 @RayDolor: Yep, Vandeman has been giving the MTB community decades of abuse. He is still ranting to this day. He was charged way back in 2010 but is still getting banned from various platforms for his rants.

Picture of him here:

reviews.mtbr.com/anti-mountain-biking-fanatic-mike-vandeman-arrested-for-assault-with-a-deadly-weapon-against-two-bikers

 @suspended-flesh: Ye. Still rants, but it's always the same old recycled vitriolic rubbish.
A real rodent of a man.

 i felt hurt

 No kidding.. Wow! Full face got proper usage!

 casual face brake check to full ouchies in 2 seconds...

 Bang..and there goes the clavicula!

 At least those trails were built behind a brewery.

 Bec's Ex. Put that on a t-shirt, Mr. Cameraman

 Hill - 1 Rebecca - 0

 i legit want the rest of that vid to hear what she said once she unpacked her ribs. could have been a blair witch thing with the camera just going to the ground, bec writhing and the sounds of old mate legging it.

 Guy thinking to himself - Here comes Rebecca grabbing the goddamn front brake again...

“You got this Rebecca!”

 Brutal week! Not much light relief apart from Giant guy and maybe the guy riding up the wooden ramp thing

 Some brutal close ups. That head slam at 0.45.

 @tremeer023: The first half was particularly savage. Makes you wonder about the clips they receive and decide not to show!

 some of these people must have trouble walking and chewing gum

 My girlfriend is not a good rider, but she wants to ride with me, so when riding with her I chose mellow trails and one of the first things I said to her was "You can use this brake". She had some falls, but none was OTB.

 Pretty sure I heard a bone breaking at the end there. Jeez...

 Pretty stupid to see that he was walking at the wrong side.

 And hurt a lot

 I was waiting to see if the tumbling beam of light would make it all the way down to the road below.

 Fo' Sho', Bearlover!

 My thoughts exactly- done it. I can feel that sensation in my brain just watching that

 While you're at just rename the whole thing "Oh shit, you okay?"

 If I could have any trail to ride out of my door, it would probably be Predator.

 Dude was like "Brakes? don't need those anymore, I got to the bottom of the rock roll!" Probably could've ridden it out, was just a little off line for the second one.

 @JXN1: 12 minutes to parking lot for me.

 From the panicked, shrill scream... I would guess dislocated shoulder

 Yeah for sure. Super brutal

 Humerus? I didn’t find it very funny at all but hey, if it floats your boat

 Nothing humorous about that crash...

I actually made that joke in the ER with a broken collarbone about a month ago when the doc said "could be worse, could be a humerus fracture." Went right over the doctor's head. I was shocked and convinced he was a robot sent by aliens to study our species.

 @Stoaks: maybe they’re sick and tired of hearing the same line over and over. Still, you’d think he would have made nice and humured you.

 Jesus wept. Humered. Obvs.

 It's hard to have any sense of humour when you have a titanium plate and eight screws in your right humerus.

 @Tasso75: Matchy matchy. I got the same hardware in my right clavicle! Still in a sling and lurking on PB.

 @ODubhslaine: No, I'm pretty sure he was a filthy robot lol.

 @Stoaks: you were the 5th person that day to make that joke. It’s equivalent to saying “thanks a latte” to a barista.

 Disc rotor to the jugular didn't help matters at the scene...

 Lucky not to land on the bike at the side of the trail too - could have added a punctured abdomen to their problems

 @danny611: That would be my guess as well, having dislocated my shoulder several times biking... Such a gross and painful injury!

 Yeah that looked horrible. Scream before impact - Could be fine. Impact then scream - Definitely not ok.

 @Stoaks: when on the ER with a left shoulder AC grade 3 the doctor made the joke "That shoulder will never be right", and we both laugh .

 @Stoaks: I don't think the ER docs laugh. When they went to reset me shoulder I told the doc, " I hope you got the good shit, because I don't think I can be awake while you put it back in." He just looked at me and asked if I used narcotics recreationally.

Nope. I ride bikes recreationally, and I can do this kind of damage to myself sober!

 @danny611: Or collar bone possibly?

 @mugglesman: Sucks for us side-sleepers Had a disco, a bad separation, and a torn rotator cuff (at different times). Doctor said it would have been better if the clavicle just did it's job and snapped.

 I believe that’s a timing issue... Meaning they’re preloading ( pushing down) on the bike too late and actually pushing down the front end on take off, instead of before take off.

Their suspension settings could be off, but some of them are doing the same thing with hard tails...

 Yep, timing is way too late.

 My point of view is; Rebond is like sriracha, you want some but you don't want you meal taste only that!

 @Saidrick: The opposite can happen too. If you preload too early the rear suspension will unload completely and spit you forward onto the front wheel as you leave the takeoff. Had that happen a few times when I was first learning to jump, you know ....on small stuff.

 @Saidrick: so shock and fork should have equal rebound ?

 @zombiejack33: I've never seen a pro (see: race weekend videos with Jordi) where they worry about the front relative to the back. Front or rear rebound will affect the overall handling at both ends, but it isn't about matching them.

In the department of unhelpful advice, rebound should be as fast as you can go without it being too fast. Most people will just do a visual test where you push down on the bars or seat and let go right away to see how fast it comes back. Anyone with experience should be able to do that to get it in the ball park, and then you use bracketing to adjust from there. Jordi also made a video about bracketing, meaning repeating the same lap over and over making changes to a single adjustment at a time, and a big enough adjustment (so like 3 clicks) to start off with that you definitively can say better/worse.

 @zombiejack33:

I set my fork and shock rebound with factory settings and make adjustments from there, I generally run my rebound a little slower/ a little bit more dampening than factory and my compression a little bit less dampening than factory. And I usually make adjustments to front and back and ride it to see how it feels.

 @saidrick @friendlyfoe: Thanks!

 From my own experience and reading general comments on here most people seem to end up with similar settings as Saidrick has with their fork. Remember we are always counting from all the way closed (clockwise) which is the most damping meaning the slowest setting and that all the way closed is position #1. Fox 36 says rebound and compression both 6 clicks out for my pressure. Rebound I'm 5 clicks out (so a touch slower than recommended), and compression I'm 7 or 8 clicks out (less damping, moves easier). Again I'll say that your settings are based off your weight/pressure, so you can only compare to someone with the same weight.

I find that if I go 6 clicks out on rebound the front starts to push in flat corners and I have less grip, but I also suck. Compression I like a touch softer than what they say, but again I'm a like high level intermediate rider. As you go faster your settings will change.

Shocks are a bit more difficult to tune. Manufacturers usually recommend a rebound setting based on how much PSI you're running, so I'd definitely say to start with the factory setting for your pressure. Bracketing is great but you have to go a couple of click in each direction (and only changing one setting) so that the difference is noticeable. If rebound is too fast you need to be a bit careful because there is a risk of the bike bouncing you on say a flat landing. Too slow and the shock will pack up, meaning it stays so low in the travel on repeated hits that it's like not having suspension.

And if you have high/low speed rebound go watch the vorsprung video talking about how the high speed circuit affects the low speed circuit and have someone on standby to clean up the mess when your head explodes.

 It may never make it in. PinkBike probably receives hundreds of submissions weekly. There’s simply not enough room to use all of them.

 Does there need to a be a sign for that? What a bunch of maroons....

 @CanaanSD:

 I think it's weight too far back; they land, hit the brakes to check speed, and with no weight on the front wheel, the only thing it can do is slide...

 Including the teeter totter!?

 This guy has arrived from some other sport just recently.

 @Jvisscher: at least he already had stickers on his bars to show off his sponsors in the GoPro footage. LOL.

 Nothing to 360

 Me 8 years ago. First day with my new bike on a new jump. Completely missed the speed. In the end I just could not breath for 1min. Could have been worse for sure. Close call for the collarbone

 Some, but the majority just seem to land with their weight way too far forward.

 @hllclmbr: oh definitely. And some seem to be really good riders that just let it get away from them. But I’m sure I saw a lot of sus buck going on. More than I usually do

 @hllclmbr: I'd say it actually the oppo; most people are way too far back. This makes sense as you're literally trying to get further away from the thing that could hurt you, but you got to be tall and agressive for drops, jumps and steeps. If they consciously dropped their heels this would be obivious; you can't really do it when you're 2 feet behind the seat (unless it's super steep).

But the biggest issue? They're in over the heads!

 @plyawn: Just general in over their heads is right for most of it. The rock slab crashes tend to be a lack of braking control combined with a fear of carrying too much speed. Most of the jumps are just joeys sending stuff that's over their head with no technique. I'm still confused by the second one. Was the sound copied to it wrong because he screams oh s**t like 3 seconds before getting to the actual crash.

 @hllclmbr: I definitely see some folks going off jumps who are way in the backseat before they even get to the lip. All that suspension rebound = OTB on landing.

 I think most are cause by poor form and riders seizing up when things get weird.