Video: Friday Fails #205

 ...if a rider crashes in the woods and the PB label prevents anyone from seeing it, does the crash still happen?

 Does anyone know the butthed's address? or live close to the beast? whatever... 'cos something needs to be done urgently!

 Someone check on @butthed, I think you might be having an epileptic seizer.

 Last fail left a bad taste

 It must just be entertainment for the pinkbike staff at this point...

 Consider this - sometimes young developers build bots in comment sections for fun. However, seeing how effective they are when it comes to engagement, sometimes the actual platforms themselves deploy these bots in order to rack up engagement time and clicks. Basically trolling their own sites because they know people will engage with those types of posts. Wink.

 Went down hard

 @MuddyBrit: like a sweet muffin

 Seems he had problems with the wood.

 Could've rode it a little longer

 He's probably more used to boner logs

 At 0:59? Looks to me like they slipped a pedal or maybe broke their chain and were riding the top tube into it

 lol! ...love that the sounds of additional carnage continue even after the bike leaves the frame.

 I guess Santa won't be coming to town after that one.

 It does help explain the supply issues

 THIS explains why I didn't get my new drivetrain for Christmas... Santa didn't send it!

 Ho-ho-hold my beer

 @SATN-XC: I think you mean after the components leave the bike frame

 I get your point, but if the rider doesn't see it, why would you expect their friends to be more clued in? Wouldn' the most logical answer be that everyone involved is equally out of their depth, it's just the person in front of the camera who pays the biggest price?

 @plyawn: Likely happens, but in these videos when you see 3-6 people standing around besides the filmer, odds are someone should have a clue about the send-ees riding abilities and their lack of track record on the double they are haphazardly pedaling themselves at.

Like a lot of these videos are full blown adults, who are supposed to have fully developed brains and calculated risk assessment, not like reckless kids.

 Dont get me wrong, i love seeing my friends send it, and we did a lot of stupid shit as kids, but don't willfully encourage and watch your buddy lawn dart when it was gonna end up as a wreck 19 out of 20 attempts

 What if he/ she is the Alpha in the pack?

 @jdkellogg: you give the average human too much credit...."hang on let me grab my beer to watch this" guy is way more fun to ride with then " your wife wont be happy to get a call from the ER" guy. Plus what would we watch on Friday, a video about who changed teams?

 @pink505: it really is hilarious. but man so unnecessary.

0:57. Has this dude ever hit a jump before, ever?
Best start with a 2 bike length double we build out in a field.
"How much speed?" "I dunno i've never done this before"

bolt upright and stiff as a board into the lip - check
dead sailor - check
holding onto the bars until his face hits the dirt - check

 @pink505: I wouldn’t like to ride with neither of these two. These two are worth each other.

 @pink505: Not saying you shouldn't try to progress. But you cant go from 0-10. Maybe start on a table top after learning bunny hops and learning how to ride off a curb

 While I don't entirely disagree with you, you sound like someone who is no longer progressing in this sport. If you banked up enough glory that you no longer have to scare yourself then good for you. Here's to these poor suckers that had the courage to nut up, even if it failed!

 @Yiddo1882: You couldnt be more wrong.

Theres a HUGE difference between progressing and pushing yourself with bigger and bigger stuff as you continue to master and maintain proper form and technique and build upon those basics, than pedaling half assed at a 20 foot double when you cant even reliably bunny hop up a curb.

The 2nd one is the majority of these fails, and its not "nutting up" like you said, its just straight stupidity, and gets you nowhere.

You dont "progress" in snowboarding by buying equipment and "nut up" heading straight for the double black diamonds and back country your 2nd day on the mountain. You dont get any better and you dont develop reliable skillsets that way.

 @Yiddo1882: even IF 0:57 landed it, they wouldnt be any BETTER. They didnt LEARN anything because they have NO idea what happened. It would be pure luck.

 @Yiddo1882: Start small and work you way up.

Its impossible to progress when you are in the hospital.

If youre gonna fall on a small jump, dont try the big jump. At least when you fall on the small jump you keep practicing and learning and iterating.

Again, i'm talking about people pedaling at stuff they have a 5% chance of landing at best. Its stupid, and its not how you progress, and if you stand by why your friend goes for it, then you suck.

Its more fun to ride with a friend at all then send them get well cards while they nurse a broken wrist on a wallride attempt when they still havnt mastered bunnyhopping or sharp steep berm control blah blah

 @jdkellogg: don’t you think linear progression is just an ideology that even if exists in practice, will possibly lead to slow and unfruitful progress? Then there’s actual skill. Just because someone can send everything on Aline from take off to landing doesn’t mean they can jump. And Aline will be considered big by a lot of folks. There is a vid of some poor dude crashing on a green trail in Whistler and breaking his back. He surely didn’t go yolo.

I may have a great course on how to jump but the reality is that we can’t save people from themselves. When you try a new jump site, anything can happen. Finally quality of jumps is critical. Most are good in this particular vid but there’s load of horrific crap in Pinkbike fails.

 @calmWAKI: not sure i understand entirely what youre talking about, but it sounds like youre trying to make it black and white.

Risk assessment is all about probability.

If you cant reliably bunnyhop, you probably shouldnt be sending some sick new double you and your friends built, which seems to be the case in a LOT of these videos.

I feel like you are ignoring that point i keep trying to make^^^^

If you look at a jump and cant calculate in your head, I will probably land that at least 15 out of 20 tries, and visualise yourself going through the air, and visualizing a tight window of speed, you arent ready for it yet.

Landing something because you got lucky insnt progression. Learning and building is progression.

YOU WILL GET HURT as you learn new things, but LIKELY less so and LIKELY less severely if you progress appropriately.

 @calmWAKI: 3:12. Properly built. That rider convinced themselves to just f*cking ride straight into it. No plan. Nothing. They werent even CLOSE to being ready to try something like that.

If they tried that wallride 20 times, how many times do you think they would have ridden away from it?

Thats what i'm talking about, people sending stuff WAYYYYYYYY outside of their developed skillset.

 @jdkellogg: I don’t disagree with you, I just think that natural selection is a thing and sht happens. For instance you mention visualization. That is a powerful skill that few can use and many don’t even know about. So is risk assessment.

 @jdkellogg: Holding on the bars is generally a good strategy for preserving wrists, shoulders, and elbows. Watch e.g., Danny MacAskill dial in a new trick.

 @jdkellogg: I don't think that most of these people are any better statisticians than they are riders, so....

 @jdkellogg: I agree with every character you typed.

 Don’t blame others for an individuals mistakes

 @jdkellogg: But also 0:57 if you freeze frame it, he throws the world's latest nac-nac. So he gets a few style points at least.

 Sent shivers down my spine that did.

 Seriously. Hope he came with all his teeth...and that is not the right line. Camera person was standing in it

 Always wondered where all the red marks on the rocks came from. That was not the place to otb, but kudos on the commit.

 there was no wall riding in any of those wall ride falls

 Is it wall ride fail if there are zero tire marks on the wood?

 @SATN-XC: I was going to argue with you...but changed my mind at the last second...so you are right.

 See off in the distance, elevated wall ride 2:18 Full commitment, high risk literally :o

 Agreed. If I see it right she grabs the front brake hard (the logo stops moving). If she hadn't, I think she would not have gone OTB.

 Huckfest to 1 Finger Death Punch

 I don't think it was the front brake. Looked to me like the tire was too big for the fork and fouled on the crown at bottom-out. It also sounds like a tire buzzing a crown (I think--kind of hard to judge with the slowed down audio).

 @barp: Could have been that too. I thought it looked like he was locking up both brakes on the landing in the slow mo.

 @ww27: @barp: Yea it was brakes (at least partially). I couldn't post the HD version but in the higher resolution vid I could see my fingers moving the levers. I'm honestly not sure why I did brake but I think it was a panic/reflexive reaction to the hard landing. I also landed front heavy, kinda like a huck to flat. Fingers will be off the brakes next drop!

 @iduckett: Hah, panic braking! Been there, done that. I've learned (or started to learn, at least) to let myself not cover my brake levers with my fingers when I ride scary stuff to avoid doing it anymore. Can you check whether your tire hits your fork on the HD, though? Looks damn close.

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