In these days of universally inflating prices, it's good news from YT as they are launching a new cheaper model of their Capra enduro bike, and upgrading the second cheapest model too.
The Capra MK3 was launched in 2021, featuring 170 mm of travel front and rear and a choice of carbon and alloy frames. The new base model, the Capra Core 1, uses an aluminum frame and is available with mullet (MX) or full 29" wheel configurations. It costs €2,699 / £2,699 / $2,699 USD / $3,799 CAD.
For that, you get a RockShox Zeb Base fork (with the new entry-level Rush RC damper) and SuperDeluxe R air shock; SRAM's new
DB8 mineral oil brakes and an NX drivetrain. You also get YT's own-brand dropper post which uses SDG internals and delivers up to 200 mm travel in size XXL.
Here are the full specs.
Note there is a small mistake in the above spec chart - the cassette is a SRAM PG 1210 Eagle with an 11-50T range.
Capra Core 2The addition of the new base model has allowed YT to push the boat out with the Core 2 model; it has been upgraded from NX to GX drivetrain, and the dropper post travel has been increased to match the Core 1, with 200 mm travel in the biggest size. This does come with what I'm going to call a "price upgrade" of about €100.
Compared to the Core 1, upgrading to the Core 2 model gets you the GX (not NX) drivetrain with a wider-range cassette; Fox's super supple 38 Grip fork; Crank Brothers Synthesis alloy wheels, and SRAM Code R brakes.
Here are its full specs:
Weights and pricesYT were good enough to provide some weight figures for the two bikes. These numbers are for the average weight for a size S bike, tubeless, no pedals, no bottle. Those weights in freedom units are CAPRA 29 Core 2: 35.9 lbs; CAPRA MX Core 2: 35.5 lbs; CAPRA 29 Core 1: 37.0 lbs; CAPRA MX Core 1: 36.6 lbs. Before you complain that that's quite a lot, remember it's a 170 mm enduro bike that costs less than
some frames.
For reference, I'm an accountant not an economist, so everything I just said is probably bogus.
The companies are just fine, it’s only the staff that will get burned.
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Knolly has been heavily discounting some of their bikes since November of last year.
They were offering 30% off Fugitive, warden, etc.
I sent the link to a buddy that picked up a Fugitive for 5ish k brand new.
It was a smokin deal
To your point though, SOME of the companies will be fine (Specialized, Trek, etc.). But what folks often forget that the employees are often the largest benefactors of the organizational success at growth stage organizations, meaning a healthy balance sheet is key to keeping folks employed.
Not quite. We as consumers drive demand which in turn drives supply. Bikes are one market where free market economics do seem to prevail, I.e. no gov subsidies. I think the demand spiked, supply is now spiking while demand is falling. That lag in the ability to increase supply, the big period of no availability, combined with huge increases in costs cut everyone’s margins, increased prices. So the brands that can compete on value will be the ones with independent control over supply chains. They’ll be the ones that control costs and supply and respond to market forces quickly.
Basically we’re a line on a graph, but there are mor factors than just consumers. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out, but I think bikes will get cheap for a while. RIP to the dudes selling their stock spires for 7k on the buy sell.
YT = $2,699
Dang, letters are expensive. No wonder the CLLCTV exists.
(I know I know they fixed it but it took forever!)
"push the boat out"
Seb is speaking his own language. I like it. Not as mundane as typical jargon.
⬆️⬆️All of this was at the core of the YT image, the center of their ethos, and was etched in mountain bikers minds as an integral part of the YT brand.
I was joking with my reply as something to complain about, but the first thing I always think of seeing this frame is that it would be weird not being able to access the bottle from both sides. Probably something that I would get used after the first ride and definitely not something that would impact my buying decision.
I generally use the right hand, being right handed. Never really gave much concern to braking needs. Now thinking about it, given the choice of only having one brake to use, I would choose the front all day, unless one was doing a wheelie and drinking at the same time.
Don't worry I got ya covered..
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I use an Osprey Savu and use the left bottle holder because if I'm coasting downhill and grab a sip on trail, grabbing front brake instantly makes your fork dive, weight shift forward & the bars turn hard toward the angle of the terrain. It's chaotic at bey to ride a one handed front brake on uneven downhill
Long story short, always use my right hand to brake, always use my right hand to get my bottles. Never once crashed in decades of riding.
p.s. f*ck off, hahaha.
When the core 2 was released about a year ago, it was 5000, then late last year price jacked up to 6000. Core 2 GX is now 6600. (Prices are up in the YT site)
"Nice cringe writing, moron. When you read what I wrote you did not realize you are the classic dumb guy that all that marketing appealed to?"
I'd love the downvoters on my previous comment to explain how the hell they think I'm wrong about this lol
I am not trying to advocate one way or the other. I will say I am only taking a sip when the terrain allows safe for one handed riding so not concerned about it. As the guy below you said, using right hand for 30 years and never crashed from taking a drink so it really is a non issue. I may need to experiment using the stranger to drink this summer just for fun.
I could go down to my local Specialized dealer and get a great bike on discount with unmatched build quality, decent-ish spec and a premium badge on the head tube for the same money.
So what's the point of YT in 2023?
YT have got a lot more expensive since Brexit, and Specialized have got a good bit cheaper in the last few weeks. The increased cost of living is starting to bite.
Btw I don't ride a yt. I went with a way too expensive ibis v2. but I do appreciate their value and I think they look badass. There may be a Tues in my future
I wouldn't get another because the main selling point was the price, and they're not cheap now. The Spesh Enduro build I did ended up costing a lot more but it was such a sweet bike.
If I was looking for cheap now I would probs go Canyon. YT have lost what they once had, in my opinion.
*(said kit doesn't yet exist)
Lots of park laps.
www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/front-suspension/2021-2023-sid-and-sid-sl-service-manual.pdf
’ YT Launch New Affordable Capra Core 1 & Upgrades Core 2 Model’ sounds more appealing.
Talk to my Buddy Karolis at rent4trail.com
You are welcome.
3299USD converts to 4753aus$
Capra core2 is 3299us$
YT put this at 6299aus$ on that table and is actually 6599 on their site..
And before shipping as well.
f*ck them
it's how bike companies are going to survive the 'Great Contraction' of 2023
welcome back GOAT
F you Yt, you should make these changes before releasing the bike.not devaluing mine because you didn’t sort it out the first time.
YT, Commencal, Canyon are some of the easiest bikes to re-sell. All have solid brand recognition and people like and trust those bikes.. especially at the prices these sell for used. What is harder to sell is expensive used carbon with finicky proprietary hardware (infinity link). Totally fine when you have a warranty to back you up... but sketchy when you don't... especially with Yeti's reputation of frames braking and the infinity link needing replacement more often than it should.
Not to say you shouldn't do it... I still do. You just have to be prepared for it to be more difficult, and take longer. Being patient, prepping the bikes to make them "like new" before sale and understanding you probably won't get the prices you thought you could are important.
Again, I've done this a lot and even saying all of that, sometimes a buyer comes along, pays asking price with zero questions, an hour after I post the bike... you never know.