Descending First time out on the Voima, you're very aware you're on a 26 kg bike with a considerable wheelbase. Threading it through tight trees or picking up the wheels to negotiate off-camber roots and crux moves requires recalibrating the timing and amplitude of every body movement. Running the fork firmer helped, but I'd have liked a faster rebound setting to get more energy back when preloading the ground before lofting the front wheel. Dropping the saddle lower in the frame than the 165 mm dropper allowed helped too, but there's no getting around the fact this bike isn't for jibbing. I can just get it to the balance point of a manual, but it takes accurate timing and more effort. Bunnyhopping is also possible, but hard work and height-limited. I consider myself pretty good at bunnyhops, but anything much higher than a kerb is beyond me. If your local trails involve regularly hopping fallen trees you may want to pack your hernia belt and incontinence pads.
But with practice, you can hustle it through the tight and technical stuff. It just takes more effort and forethought. Besides, these awkward trials-like moves aren't where the Voima was meant to excel. Get it on something fast, rough and open and the speed it can carry is sure to put a grin on your face. The suspension isn't just soft and wallowy; it's surprisingly well-controlled. The touchdown feel at the rear is super supple and forgiving but there's enough progression to prevent any trapdoor feeling when pushing into a compression.
I never bottomed out but always had a smooth and bump-swallowing feel. An impact that might cause a typical 160 mm bike to bottom out hard could still leave the shock O-ring a few millimetres away from the end of the shaft, goading you to go deeper next time. And while shorter travel bikes can be made to resist bottom-outs with volume spacers, this creates a kicking sensation as the ramp of spring force happens abruptly; the Voima's suspension feels continuous and predictable. Combine this with the stable geometry and the Voima encourages you to let it run and go fast. There's loads of grip on offer and the bike is so forgiving of mistakes you feel you can get away with murder.
Trails that are fast and rough, filled with rocks, holes and drops are where the Voima makes perfect sense. To say it rides like a downhill bike would be underselling it. The extra chassis weight adds stability and suspension sensitivity few of them can match. On trails like these, I was looking further ahead, riding faster, and most notably, had much less fatigue than usual.
Cornering is a double-edged sword. The high bottom bracket and long wheelbase slow the handling, which takes some getting used to. I was running wide in the corners to start with. But after a few rides, you can get used to this different timing, especially if you know the trail. Even chicanes requiring quick changes of direction can be handled at speed if you look ahead and anticipate them. But for blind riding where a corner can come out of nowhere, it can feel a little lethargic and demands an assertive approach.
For flat corners, I grew to trust the immense grip and lean the bike over hard. Leo recommends riding with feet level, which I think is good advice on any bike where you can get away with it because it allows you to push into the ground with both feet and
generate traction; the Voima's high bottom bracket just means you can do this more often without catching the inside pedal on the side of the rut. During steep switchback turns that go from traversing the fall line in one direction to the other with a steep slope in between, I found the high bottom bracket made the bike feel tall - I was very aware of my feet being above the front axle.
But with practice, I learned to simply lower my body further towards the bike when cornering (another reason for a longer-travel seatpost). A slight bend in the knees compensates for the higher-than-average BB height. Besides, there were plenty of times when riding through stumps, ruts and rocks, where not having to worry about clipping my feet was a genuine relief. Running more sag would lower the ride height too, but I found the suspension too soft and unresponsive when set like this.
Overall, it's hard to say whether the high BB is a good thing or a bad thing - there are pros and cons. I'd like to try a Voima with 20 mm lower bottom bracket just to see. But for now, I think of the high ground clearance a bit like running narrow bars if you live somewhere with tight trees (as I do) - the handling certainly takes getting used to, but the extra clearance makes it easier to ride fast if clipping bars/pedals is a concern.
Dropping some weight would be nice too, but the Voima isn't especially heavy compared to some other big-battery e-bikes (Whyte's E-160 is heavier despite having less travel). As for the Voima's main USP: the 190 mm suspension travel? I'm all for it. It makes it easier to ride challenging features uphill
and downhill.
What about a smaller frame size? Having finished testing the Voima in size K3, I asked Pole to send me a K2 to try out. That's the size Pole's podium-finishing EWS-E racer, Leigh Johnson, rides and he's about my height.
On their website, Pole recommends the K2 to riders up to a
maximum height of 185 cm; I'm 190 cm tall, but I wanted to see if the shorter front center would improve the nimbleness. Unfortunately, the K2's super short seat tube (360 mm) wasn't long enough to get my saddle to the proper height, even after I'd swapped the seatpost to a 212 mm travel Vecnum dropper - the longest one I had. But thanks to the motor, I could put up with the saddle being around 30 mm too low. I think only the
240 mm travel OneUp V2 post would be long enough to make the K2 work for me, and even that would be on the limit. That's why I'm putting my thoughts on the K2 separately from the rest of the review: I'm not 100% sure if I can actually get the saddle high enough to make it fit me!
Straight away, it was apparent that it was much easier to get the front wheel off the ground. Sure, you can still tell it's a heavy bike, but for me, it was not too hard to get to the balance point and hop over kerb-sized obstacles or manual through puddles. I was happy doing big jumps on the K3 but getting height on small, abrupt jump faces was tricky. With the K2, it was much easier to generate pop and height when needed. I also noticed I had more grip on the front wheel in flat corners and it was easier to make tight turns and quick direction changes. The bike still feels weighty when changing direction quickly, especially when moving the bike from side to side relative to your body, but overall it's surprisingly easy to sling it through the corners. In fact, with the grip the suspension and tires generate combined with the relatively balanced weight distribution, the K2 Voima allows you to really lean it into corners and carry speed through. After a few laps, I was riding the corners on my familiar test tracks with as much speed and confidence as I have done on any bike.
Downsides? We're still talking about a bike with a 63-degree head angle and a 1,313 mm wheelbase so it's not like the K2 ever feels unstable or prone to "tripping up" when braking hard through bumps, although I was still aware of the high BB height on tight, steep turns.
When sizing down, the handlebars feel close to your lap while seated, but I didn't mind this. You could always slide the saddle backwards on the rails (which would effectively move the seat angle towards 79 degrees) or run a slightly longer stem if this bothers you, but I felt no need.
And ugly. They forgot ugly.
I'm in between sizes and I'd give it a bit more time on the market to be sure the frame holds together this time, but it definitely is on the list for bikes to consider buying.
But hey, PB readers here all like Cookie Cutter bikes made in China/Taiwan that look like a Session so this bike is totally unacceptable!!!!
Explains how Yeti can charge 10k+ for analog bikes and get away with it.
The Pole head tube badge is pleasing to my eye - what follows behind it hits a sour note for me.
For a boutique frame with unique manufacturing method, decent build kit and quite unique suspension & geometry vs a very generic bikes for the same price from the big manufacturers - or even add another €4k from the likes of Evil, Yeti etc.
It is a 190mm travel bike, essentially a DH Ebike, probably a blast in the Alps.
I agree though, for my local riding it would be way too much bike, my current 160mm ebike is too much most of the time.
It’s also a unique bike, unique geo, 190mm, cnc in house - not made in Myanmar by people who are beaten if they unionise.
I mean, this thing costs 45,980,000,000,000 Zimbabwe dollars! LOL
Since when has being aware that some companies make frames in factories that stab staff for protesting working conditions 'political? - (Btw Justin Trudeau's job is to make political comments you dumb shit)
If you don't care, that's up to you, but I like to buy things from people that have decent conditions for workers if there is a choice and with Pole you know that will be the case.
Its the carbon guys that make frames in Myanmar by the way, not alu frames - have a look - globalmayday.net/2020/10/18/myanmar-union-busting-at-sporting-goods-factory
I think Taiwan got a little too expensive.
I have a 160mm ebike, 180 forks, 63 head angle, just under 50lbs - I ride it in varied terrain but it’s plan shite in some situations, getting used to it is just accepting that.
The machine time on these frames has to add cost but it’s like 3-4K cheaper
www.vitalmtb.com/community/Faster-Than-U,27599/setup,46165
btw.: why did you go for 27,5 and 2.8 tires?
Maybe Pivot can substitute all the XT parts in their "XTR build" with SLX to save some money there and use it to find a better supplier.
We have to assume that Myanmar is the very cheapest labour source available for a carbon fiber factory but yet these brands are amongst the very most expensive frames available - more expensive than Taiwanese built bikes where employee rights are much greater and a similar price to the Guerilla Gravity stuff that is made in the USA.
It also stated in the article the brands were asked to intervene in the issue to resolve it and all refused to do so.
Not a good show at all really, but if the customers don't care then thats that.
But it is crazy that they charge so much and choose the most inhuman cheapest place to make their boutique bikes
And you live in the UK, yet aren't aware of one of the largest high Street retailers in the country? Nice attempt at a flex, but OK.
because i sure hope you're not implying people have ebike fetishes
The Jeep could be teetering on the edge of flipping over, and the picture will look like one tire ran over the curb at the mall. So I admit that I am guilty of occasionally tilting the camera to make the pic look like what my eyes see, but only when there are no trees in the background.
I f@cking hate the current Bosch display/controller. I don't want the bridge of the starship enterprise bolted to my handlebar.
I’ve tried all sorts of configurations, but settled on dropping the front to 180mm and sticking a coil on the back (both ohlins). Really transformed the bike for me. Makes the bike turn in that little easier and with an ohlins 38 you get to use all the travel, zeb was terrible…choose one: small bump, mid stroke or bottom out support. Didn’t notice any decrease in dh performance.
One point thats not in the review (maybe i missed it?) is that the actual ground clearance is pretty poor due to how the motor is oriented and you up hitting it pretty hard sometimes going through large rock/boulders.: couple of scary moments considering the speed you end up taking on sections.
"I couldn't relax or take in the trail"...
So you only ride over silent terrain? You wince every time you get chain slap or even change gears because the sound is ruining your peace and tranquility..? Total bullshit..!
Yours is the most transparent and pathetic of excuses...
Like what you like. Just STFU about your off-road moped already, some people don't like those. And not just 'cause they're poors.
Maybe you think pushing your bike bike up the hill is 'riding', i don't.. Maybe you think struggling like f*ck up hill is fun, i don't.. but you can make it even harder by turning the motor off if you want which is propbably more your style, you probably stick forks in your legs when you have too much fun as well...
enjoy your moped!
I thought that died with skinsuits.
The awful manufacture and much, much worse customer service leaves a lot to be desired.
What have they improved to make the much heavier and longer ebike stronger than the previous bikes?
Has the customer service improved?
I like the bike but would struggle to give this company another penny after the previous bike I had from them which basically snapped in half after a few hours of easy riding then spent nearly a year trying to get a refund.
If you purchase from Pole make yourself acquainted with consumer laws because if (When...) it all falls apart it's more hassle than worth.
Funny enough, I went all in on my current Fox 38 Factory - and yet I leave the compression circuits wide open (as do many of my friends). I guess I like knowing that I have the Grip2 damper - although I don't use it.
I still haven’t received the wheelset. USPS tracking shows the package was sent to a neighboring town and then returned to sender 3 weeks ago. Pole won’t send a replacement and will only send the original wheels when they arrive to them. They won’t send a partial refund either. If you are in the US and Pole sends via EMS, check USPS tracking and then sign up for text updates. The posti link Pole provides is useless. Also, if part of your bike was backordered, you may need to contact them a couple times to get it shipped out. I may not get the wheels, but maybe, if you heed this warning, you’ll get yours.
In other words, they didn't fix the alignment issues, they just hide them now by machining the outside. The potential weakness down the centerline is still there, and in fact may be worse because some of the material thickness has been machined away.
It took a while for the Stamina problems to become know because Pole spend a lot of time hushing up people on public forums.
Poor construction of the Stamina. At least they have changed something, hopefully for all the people purchasing these bikes it is a much stronger frame.
I like this bike but given how poorly I was treated when I wanted a warranty for my previous Pole I'd be pretty hard pressed giving this company a cent (Frame split in half after a few hours usage, was told I washed the frame with incorrect cleaning fluids WTF!!!, had to basically get legal intervention to get my money back, took nearly 12 months).
Would consider if they offered a very good discount for customers who they had previously burnt.
I'm not suggesting these frames actually are going to break - after all the problems with the Stamina they would have been mad not to allow for this with conservatively thick wall sections.
As mentioned earlier, we have changed management and improved our processes and quality. With the new method, we removed most of the manual labor. Now that we make the whole outside in one piece, the chance of misalignment is meager. We have used years to perfect this and have patented and pending patents for our methods.
Our frame surfaces are within 0.17mm tolerance, and our main bearing seats are within 0.02mm. On Voima, we have optimized our wall thickness to be only 0.9mm in the thinnest part. We have successfully made wall thicknesses of 0.7mm. Therefore we claim that our frames are more accurate than any other method in the market.
This is the greatest single line ever written in relation to a bicycle
The frame is already protected by the coating and you're using 7075 aluminum, so perhaps it doesn't even need the plastic wrap. And for those that go through frames like candy and need the wrap purely for aesthetic reasons, they probably don't really care about the whole sustainability thing.
Most packing cartons here in Finland are recycled. However, recycling renewables also needs energy. Here's more insight into this. Around 0:30, there's the whole thing in a nutshell: youtu.be/A7eVwrLXScM
We have thought that some people don't want the protective film and want to go raw finish on our website and the bike builder. There you can choose whether you want the protective film or not.
Ps. Lithium is also recycled these days. www.fortum.com/services/battery-recycling
never change, pb commenters...
www.bikeradar.com/reviews/components/forks/suspension-forks/rockshox-zeb-vs-fox-38-fork
Were you pricing it for next day Air?
Mine is a frame only, Mullet build, +1 deg angleset, 356mm BB height, handles and corners on rails as a mullet and still eats up all bumps.
P.S. The ugliest bike of the year award goes to this bike
I said what I said. Mainly since I'm not allowed to call this thing fu**ing ugly.